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Blackout RTE avoided in France this October 7 2019




by Christophe » 13/10/19, 22:14

An info that did not make the news ...

Electricity: the French network experienced a weakness last Monday

RTE dropped the current of twenty energy consuming industrial sites Monday 7 October in the evening. This is the second time that this anti-blackout emergency device has been activated since its creation under 2011's NOME law.

The incident was discreet and quickly circumscribed, but on Monday October 7 the French electrical system was put to the test. Due to lack of sufficient production, the Transmission System Operator (RTE) - which must ensure a permanent balance between supply and demand - had to reduce the consumption of emergency 22 industrial production sites around 21 hours .

Created under the NOME law of 2011, this so-called "interruptibility" device makes it possible to disconnect in a few seconds the factories that consume a lot of electricity, who are willing and paid to do so, in order to avoid the risk of "blackouting". ". Until now, the mechanism had only been activated once, the 10 last January, when a measurement problem on the lines connecting Germany and Austria put the European electricity grid at risk.

Unexpected stoppage of a Gravelines turbine

This time around, according to RTE: the unexpected shutdown of the production of an EDF reactor in its Gravelines plant and the drop in frequency on the network at European level. "Traditionally, we observe a low frequency at the end of peak consumption hours in the fall. This was accentuated Monday night by the incident in Gravelines. The interruptibility measure has ensured the security of the network, it is part of our technical levers to act. We were very far from the blackout, "says RTE.

At EDF, it is specified that the stop in Gravelines is not related to a problem on one of its nuclear reactors but on a turbine that was disconnected from the network and returned to service at 7 hours Tuesday morning. "The production unit has been disconnected in order to carry out a maintenance operation on the secondary circuit, located in the non-nuclear part of the installation," explains the energy specialist.

Concretely, in such a case, the disconnection of manufacturers is automatic. Sites like that of the Liberty group that produces aluminum in Dunkerque or those of chemist KEM ONE in the south of France were thus reduced power during 15 minutes Monday night. Enough to release no less than 1.400 megawatts in seconds!

New risks

"This emergency device was created after 2006's gigantic European blackout and it still proves its effectiveness when the network is threatened," said Nicolas de Warren, president of Uniden, the association that brings together electro-intensive groups.

However, it fears that power grids will be increasingly put to the test in the coming years: "With the rise of electricity interconnections in Europe and intermittent renewable energies such as wind turbines, this type of event risks to breed more frequently. "


Source: https://www.lesechos.fr/amp/1139144
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by GuyGadebois » 13/10/19, 22:19

Well, just build more nuclear power plants. : Mrgreen:
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by A.D. 44 » 13/10/19, 22:25

Hello,

Christophe wrote:. "Traditionally, we observe a low frequency at the end of peak consumption hours in the fall. This was accentuated Monday night by the incident in Gravelines. The interruptibility measure has ensured the security of the network, it is part of our technical levers to act. We were very far from the blackout "Explains RTE.

At EDF, it is specified that the stop in Gravelines is not related to a problem on one of its nuclear reactors but on a turbine that was disconnected from the network and returned to service at 7 hours Tuesday morning. " The production unit has been disconnected to perform a maintenance operation on the secondary circuit, located in non-nuclear part of the installation ", details the energy specialist.


I do not see anything worrying or catastrophic.

On the contrary, it seems organized and controlled.
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by Christophe » 13/10/19, 22:43

Uh if sites are unloaded to avoid collapse is that it has not been so well organized that ... but yes it has been mastered.
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by sicetaitsimple » 13/10/19, 22:56

Christophe wrote:An info that did not make the news ...


I think the title of the thread is just a little 'over the top'.

It's still odd to want to emphasize the occasional use of resources that are precisely designed to deal with such situations!
From memory, but I could be wrong, "interruptible" manufacturers are paid up to sixty million per year (in all, not everyone!) For this service, on a voluntary and contractual basis with RTE. Is it abnormal for RTE to use it when it needs it?

PS: if someone has the value of the frequency hollow at the time of the event, it would be interesting, especially to relativize it because if there had been a real problem, no doubt we would have talked about it almost everywhere in Europe.
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by thibr » 14/10/19, 18:48

on the RTE website
France did not graze the blackout on Monday 7 October : Mrgreen:
https://media.rte-france.com/francenapa ... utoctobre/

This decrease in frequency was accentuated by a sudden technical incident on a generating station (-900 MW).

The electrical frequency then dropped to 49,82 Hz. In order to rebalance the electrical system as soon as possible, the interruptibility was activated automatically [note: response to the 49,82 Hz criterion during 3 consecutive seconds].
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by sicetaitsimple » 14/10/19, 19:01

Ah, 49,82Hz, this is absolutely dramatic indeed! We really need to change the title of this thread! “Pet crooked on the network this October 7, 2019” would be more representative.
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by sicetaitsimple » 14/10/19, 19:37

Just to illustrate, the United Kingdom which is not especially an underdeveloped country saw its frequency oscillating between 50,2Hz and about 49,85Hz on the last hour available in real time at the time of writing .....

https://extranet.nationalgrid.com/RealTime
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by Gaston » 15/10/19, 15:02

sicetaitsimple wrote:Ah, 49,82Hz, it's absolutely dramatic indeed!

RTE wrote :In normal situation, the tolerance threshold is 0,050 hertz plus or minus


So 49,82 Hz is a value considered to be significantly abnormal (more than 3 times tolerance)

From there to say if it's a fart wrong or if we approached the disaster : Mrgreen:
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by GuyGadebois » 15/10/19, 15:20

Gaston wrote:
sicetaitsimple wrote:Ah, 49,82Hz, it's absolutely dramatic indeed!

RTE wrote :In normal situation, the tolerance threshold is 0,050 hertz plus or minus


So 49,82 Hz is a value considered to be significantly abnormal (more than 3 times tolerance)

From there to say if it's a fart wrong or if we approached the disaster : Mrgreen:

In real time:
https://www.mainsfrequency.com/
Otherwise, how could that be catastrophic (I'm a ball in electricity)?
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