Arte: energy differently

Christophe · by **Christophe** » 03/05/11, 22:34

With Olivier Sidler, who has already been talked about forums: http://www.arte.tv/fr/3863934.html

Follow the live broadcast and participate, from 22h25, in video chat with U. Wengenroth and O. Sidler on energy issues and turning points.
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Olivier Sidler is an expert in building energy. He works since 15 years in the field of energy measurement and buildings with very low consumption.

Ulrich Wengenroth is Professor of Technical History at the University of Munich and a member of the German Academy of Science and Technology.

Stream and live chat: http://www.arte.tv/fr/Comprendre-le-mon ... 74490.html

Christophe · by **Christophe** » 03/05/11, 22:50

An info that will interest more than one:

Sergek (guest): The development of a small solar thermal converter with an efficiency of 70% and an installed Kwh price of 200 € and going on in my small SME. It is impossible to continue funding this project which is coming to an end and the demonstrator is working. My company has as shareholder EDF-EN. They retire when everything works. I do not understand anything.

I understand ... : Evil:

Christophe · by **Christophe** » 03/05/11, 22:55

Come on the cat

netshaman · by **netshaman** » 04/05/11, 00:53

It's clear, I understand too, my condolences ...
Change your sponsor!
: Evil:

dedeleco · by **dedeleco** » 04/05/11, 02:54

In this report Denmark realized what Sarkozy says a monstrosity: replace nuclear with renewable!
The show even analyzes the difference between France and Germany: our system of engineering schools with unique thinking without originality that only sees large centralized projects, even crazy like nuclear!

Also Sarkozy is monstrous to want lead us sooner or later to a Chernobyl-Fukushima, in France sooner or later, since we can not be infallible in perpetuity, even if France has a lower probability of earthquake than Japan.

Finally this report has forgotten the recovery of solar heat summer heat to heat the winter!
http://www.dlsc.ca/DLSC_Brochure_f.pdf
http://www.dlsc.ca

It is superbly ignored this simple and effective solution of summer storage for winter, even by the ecologists !!!

Sergek's converter muffled, sterilized by EDF EN would walk with this heat stored on 4 months, even days without sun !!!!!

At the price of 200 € the KW (not KWh I think) I buy to make it work in winter with the summer heat that remains before heating with the heat that comes out after conversion into electricity !!!!

And yet with a geological bore auger I can realize at home the 25 50 necessary holes!
Problem: Kiloutout does not rent these augers !!

In fact picolo disappeared after the references on that !!!!!

netshaman · by **netshaman** » 04/05/11, 08:28

What I have always said is that we must not wait for the decision to come from the politicians or from any government authority: the decision to change things is up to us to take it or not!
The leaders all that interests them is to stay in power that's all!
When will the common man finally understand that the power they are given is only the one we want to give them?
They are at our service after all not the opposite !!!
This is a democracy, no?
Or France has not been one for a long time ...

How is this converter?
Do you have a link?
They only have to sell the plans or a kit to mount yourself or distribute it in open-source in the extreme case or they would go bankrupt, which I do not wish of course.
The more people who choose another solution to nuclear on their own, the less Areve and EDF can make their law (market law cqfd)
We only have to organize to make a bulk purchase of material I do not know me!

Christophe · by **Christophe** » 04/05/11, 11:01

After a lot of misgivings, I started to look at Zeitgeist (well, let's say some) ... for the 1ere hour it's really well done. I would say very laconically:

"We are in trouble, but everything is explained" (why we do "nothing", why we are so individualist, then also for example the contempt of industrialists and politicians towards water doping ... : Evil:

)

Topic of Lietseu:
https://www.econologie.com/forums/j-accepte- ... t8934.html

Evoked in this subject, criticizes our wise Ahmed
https://www.econologie.com/forums/comment-su ... t9374.html

Ahmed wrote:@ Lietseu:
Thanks to the kindness of a friend, I was finally able to watch the video for "zeitgeist".
I recognize that this is formally well done * and relevant to some of the arguments, but I see nothing more (and even less) than in the text.
So, I'm left with my previous criticism ...

* by translation into voiceover which is quite approximate.

And this one: https://www.econologie.com/forums/tout-savoi ... 77-90.html

You can see it in full here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w click on CC for French subtitles.

Take the time to see it, at one time you will not assimilate everything. Personally, I watch it in sequence of one hour.

There is a 3ieme part on http://www.mouvement-zeitgeist.fr/index ... Itemid=128

Only downside: it can make even more paranoid some ... : Mrgreen:

dedeleco · by **dedeleco** » 04/05/11, 13:17

Everything agrees with netshaman!
Policies are just our reflection!

How is this converter?
Do you have a link?
They only have to sell the plans or a kit to mount yourself or distribute it in open-source in the extreme case or they would go bankrupt, which I do not wish of course.
The more people who choose another nuclear solution on their own, the less Areva and EDF can make their law (cqfd market law)
We only have to organize to make a bulk purchase of material I do not know me!

In any case there is the thermoacoustic, very recent, and in full progress, with many achievements of Stirling converter without moving parts, which work on solar oven!

A tube of good shape, with acoustic impedance matching expansion cone and heat exchanger stack is enough to create powerful oscillations with a difference in temperature.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoacoustique
http://thermoacoustique.free.fr/

http://www.io.com/~frg/tar.htm
https://www.econologie.com/forums/post201333.html#201333
http://www.io.com/~frg/
http://www.io.com/~frg/taceng.html
http://www.io.com/~frg/tar.htm
http://www.io.com/~frg/tac.htm
http://www.lanl.gov/thermoacoustics/Pub ... cwLAUR.pdf
http://cfa.sfa.asso.fr/cd1/data/articles/000033.pdf

and other Stirling less original very serious, like the Germans who will dominate us with the renewable and leave us with a Fukushima in France inevitably !!:
http://www.bio-mag.fr/news-108.html
http://www.sunmachine.fr/prod_solar.htm

Alain G · by **Alain G** » 04/05/11, 15:16

Hi Christopher!

Your link: http://www.arte.tv/fr/3863934.html does not seem accessible here in Canada like many others, if you could make this video available on youtube it would make me very happy.

The thank you box

jlt22 · by **jlt22** » 04/05/11, 16:07

I watched the show well on Arte;
We talked about energy and above all renewable, since it was the subject, it was very good. Fossil fuels will soon be exhausted, so it is quite relevant to develop dare dare the renewable energies.

But, there is a big catch in all this, because all the stock of raw material is in the same state as the fossil energies.

Where will we find the necessary materials to continue living our "modernism"

If the earth continues to turn, men's machines will stop one day, which may not be so distant, renewable energy or not.

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