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Re: AREVA: suspicion of falsification of manufacturing records




by Christophe » 03/05/16, 17:53

Beautiful organized fraud in short ... it's beautiful!
But what is the purpose of the maneuver? Reduce real costs? Speed ​​up manufacturing?

What I do not quite understand is that, like any factory, and this is all the more true in nuclear power: a nuclear power plant must be "accepted" by competent and impartial authorities ... ASN does not have seen nothing of these fakes for 50 years?

Long live the Internet, provider of THE truth?

Did67 wrote:And in the meantime, we're talking about Place de la République, to invent something! And thugs break windows and think about changing the world? And the media talk about the breakers who break and of the standing Night movement which does not know how to do ... My Gods !!!! (but hey, it's not for nothing).


The thugs mostly show their disgust for current society ... I don't think it is gratuitous violence (except for some really stupid ...) because if you scratch, you understand the disarray of the youth who lacks a benchmark and above all confidence in the future! When you have nothing left to lose, you can become a stupid and nasty thief ... That's understandable ...

Then a broken window is a few hours of work : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:

Night standing who doesn't know how to do ... how to do what?

But calm down Didier, it's not good for your little heart!
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Re: AREVA: suspicion of falsification of manufacturing records




by Did67 » 03/05/16, 19:19

Christophe wrote:
Night standing who doesn't know how to do ... how to do what?



Well, a better world. No ???? Or what is the point, to talk ???

For me, a world not rotten. Without nuclear and its danger. With happy gardeners. With less material growth but more of everything else!

More prosaically, they also did not know how to manage some thugs and let their movement rot ... So from there to build a better France, a better Europe ... It is allowed to laugh. Finally, allow me to ...
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by Obamot » 03/05/16, 20:08

The problem is that for something to change, you need millions of dead people, unless people follow the movement ..!
Failing that, you have to bend to the leveling down of the legislative of a confiscated democracy sponsored by lobbyists!

And in the meantime the wall which is across the road and we who are rushing straight at it.
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by Ahmed » 03/05/16, 22:55

the real thugs are not in these demonstrations and are infinitely more dangerous, since they have the law for them ... : roll:
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by Christophe » 04/05/16, 11:48

Ahmed wrote:the real thugs are not in these demonstrations and are infinitely more dangerous, since they have the law for them ... : roll:


You think about ceci...may be???
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by Ahmed » 04/05/16, 12:41

Not at all! : Lol:
As you know, in my opinion, it is not relevant to distinguish between the "good" industrial capitalism of yesteryear and the "bad" financial capitalism of today, since both have the same objective of accumulation of abstract value; if the second took precedence over the first, it is only because the first had become less and less able to perform its function and the second took over, thus temporarily postponing the collapse.
It is during the realization of this accumulation that the real destruction occurs, that of the conditions allowing life on earth and not the ridiculous breakage of simple windows or trash cans which scandalizes our media with blinders!
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Re: AREVA: suspicion of falsification of manufacturing records




by Flytox » 08/05/16, 22:28

In the Did67 link:

http://www.lemonde.fr/economie/article/2016/04/20/alerte-aux-certificats-falsifies-dans-le-nucleaire_4905333_3234.html

During the investigation, SBS, a subsidiary of the Genoyer group, acknowledged the facts. In question, one of his employees, dismissed since. He was in charge of quality control. When the analyzes carried out by Bureau Veritas or Apave showed that the parts were not in conformity, for a too high chromium level for example, it happened to him to transform their reports on his computer, to change some figures, so that the products can to be delivered despite everything without customers giving up. About sixty masked reports were identified.

"This was on minor points," says Ludovic Malgrain, the company's lawyer. When there were important subjects, it did not modify the certificates. "

At this stage of the investigation, it seems that these repeated cheating does not cause any security problem on installations in service.

Learn more about http://www.lemonde.fr/economie/article/ ... WMeMWFU.99


This kind of "drift" is common in the nuke, aeronautics, automobile industry, etc. As it happens, precisely when quality control is hierarchically the responsibility of a "production department". The first of the accounts to be made is ... economic (production objective) and not of quality follow-up. The greater the economic stake, the less the conformity decision rests with the inspectors (those who are supposed to apply the applicable inspection procedures and tolerances).

Under pressure (most often hierarchical), the controller is asked to re-check .... until it is good. From there come some "arrangements" with the calibration of measuring instruments, with the corrections resulting from the calibration of the instruments themselves, with the calibration procedure which does not specify everything ....

A) There is "what is done" (very slight exceeding of tolerance), supposed not to be dangerous (tolerance unnecessarily too tight and whose validated experience of long standing confirms the uselessness). ---> without consequence for the product or the whole

B) There is what is out of tolerance (even very little) but whose consequence on the controlled product or together is not controlled. It would be necessary to make tests, test tubes, studies to lift the indeterminacy of behavior of the product or set. But when there is no question of exceeding the costs (quickly huge in some cases) ...... Some (not controllers and not necessarily technically competent) allow themselves to question the tolerances and their calculations provided by the office study, simulations of RDM etc, to deny the experience and or the common sense ..... all this to force the decision of conformity.

For A), the correction is "easy". We work on a consensus between the design office, production and control to widen the tolerance. The "Quality" does its job and everyone can work in the medium term without cheating / providing false documents.

For B), there is no solution to expect from the big financiers who are ready to compromise everyone ... except them. Those who refuse to cheat can easily find themselves in the closet ....

In this nuke case, it would take a lot more evidence to know if what was done was more dangerous than usual. But there is little chance that the details of the “manipulations” will reach the public without filtering and manipulation by the operator and ASN.
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Re: AREVA: suspicion of falsification of manufacturing records




by moinsdewatt » 21/01/17, 13:59

Nuclear reactor anomalies: ASN considers the results "fairly correct"

AFP published on Jan. 18. 2017

The results of the safety checks carried out on nuclear reactors with an anomaly in the steel of key equipment are "rather correct", assured the president of the Nuclear Safety Authority (ASN) on Wednesday. "It's going rather well. The checks gave results which were rather correct", declared Pierre-Franck Chevet while presenting his wishes to the press.

"They certainly showed that there was an anomaly, but that the anomaly was in any case roughly framed in its magnitude," he added. Nine out of the twelve reactors that ASN asked to check have already been authorized to restart after their operator EDF was able to demonstrate the resistance of their steam generators despite an excessive concentration of carbon in the steel of which they are made.

This lack of carbon segregation also affects the cover and the tank of the EPR under construction in Flamanville (Manche) on whose compliance ASN will rule in mid-2017. "A tenth (reactor) could restart soon," said Mr. Chevet. This is that of Civaux 2, in Vienna, which EDF plans to return to service on February 3, according to data from the operator published on the website of the manager of the high-voltage electrical network RTE.

ASN also authorized the postponement of the shutdown of two other reactors (Civaux 1 and Tricastin 2, in the Drôme) so that they can participate in the electricity supply of France in the midst of a cold wave. Pierre-Franck Chevet, however, stressed the need for France to provide its electrical system "with the necessary margins" in order to be able to cope with this type of weather event even in the event of unavailability of reactors.

"We could have found ourselves in the situation where, taking into account the checks carried out, we would have to keep ten reactors shut down", he warned, which would have posed "an absolutely major problem". The Chairman of ASN, an independent administrative authority, also considered the current situation "worrying", when major issues are emerging such as the extension of the nuclear fleet beyond 40 years or the construction of new power plants.


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Re: AREVA: suspicion of falsification of manufacturing records




by Did67 » 21/01/17, 14:43

Makes me think a little of the blue helmets, the ASN: "watch out, or I get angry ...!"

And when the bullets whistle: “ah, but that's not our mandate!”. And they take pictures ...

There, it is: "attention, keep me where I get angry!". And faced with EdF or a tense situation, "in the end, it's not so bad!" ...

This is just an opinion.
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Re: AREVA: suspicion of falsification of manufacturing records




by Flytox » 21/01/17, 22:47

The results of the safety checks carried out on nuclear reactors in which the steel of key equipment has an anomaly are "fairly correct", assured the president of the Nuclear Safety Authority (ASN) on Wednesday.


"Rather correct" does not mean anything, it is not the language of a controller ruling on any control whatever. We say "Conform" or "Non-conform" to such document, standard, specification etc ... to be applied for this control.
I think it's "rather manipulated" by people "rather irresponsible" and "more motivated by money" than by security. : Evil:
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