Nuclear accident in Japan, a Japanese Chernobyl?

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by hic » 14/04/11, 16:44

dedeleco wrote:The centenary could stay at home, without radiation radiation for him, less than suicide !!
Finally, considering the situation, the heat is not under control and this will re-explode over time and exceed Chernobyl, with 4 damaged reactors overheating in perpetuity !!
Temperatures rise at No. 4 spent fuel storage pool 90°C
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/13_35.html

Even with water on it the heat build-up prevents cooling and the problems of contaminated water are subsidiary compared to the risk of explosion of the molten core much stronger!

Ultimately 4 Chernobyl explosions instead of one and 200Km evacuated at least !!


hi dedeleco

There is talk of bombing the reactor
if there is a problem of writability
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by Obamot » 14/04/11, 17:42

Do you have a connection? : Shock:
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by hic » 14/04/11, 19:43

Obamot wrote:Do you have a connection? : Shock:

hi Obamot
we’ve been talking about it for 10 days on physical.sci

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by the middle » 14/04/11, 19:44

http://mobile.agoravox.fr/actualites/en ... rder-92277

the US wants to bomb Fukushima

Professor Christopher Busby of the European Committee on Radiation Risk reveals that French and American nuclear experts have clashed over the extreme measures to be taken in Fukushima.

The US is reportedly considering bombing the plant to drown it in the ocean.

Nuclear expert Chris Busby revealed today in an interview with the Alex Jones Show that American and French nuclear advisers clashed over the emergency measures to be taken in Fukushima.

According to Chris Busby, the situation would be much more tragic than what the authorities recognize, and amply justify the passage of the accident to level 7. Indeed, several reactors would be in the open air and their reaction out of control, implying a permanent release of radionuclides, in particular plutonium from core no. 3 which was supplied with MOX.

As radiation levels become too high for teams to be kept on site, experts quarrel over the choice of more radical solutions.

The US is reportedly considering bombing the plant to drown it in the sea.

France, which supplied the MOX, wants to believe that it is possible to drown the reactors in concrete.

The quarrel reflects the experts' powerlessness in the face of the scale of the disaster and the titanic proportions of the proven and potential impacts that leave the authorities distraught.

We are experiencing the consequence of the conscious denial syndrome of the nuclear industry. Disasters of such magnitude and with such dramatic consequences have simply not been envisaged because they are neither manageable nor justifiable.

So we decided to ignore them altogether and to delude ourselves. The end of the measures envisaged shows how distraught the authorities are.

The loss of control is not to be confessed, the media blackout is total and the criminal minimization of protective provisions in the event of radiation.

Pollution by radionuclides in the USA has been minimized by the increase in admissible doses.

The areas evacuated by the Japanese authorities are, according to Chris Busby, far too limited and there is an urgent need to provide the inhabitants of an area of ​​200 km around the plant with water and food from uncontaminated areas. This 200 km area includes a large part of the Tokyo metropolitan area and its 32 million inhabitants.

Measurements made by ground samples show that the “spots” of soil contamination in the prohibited area of ​​Fukushima could be more radioactive, more toxic and more extensive than in Chernobyl despite the situation on the seafront of the power station which almost halves the potential fallout area.

Most worrying is the inability of the authorities to put an end to contamination of the environment, be it the air, the ground or the sea into which tonnes of radioactive water are constantly discharged. These pollutions are widely dispersed by currents as by winds and this on a global scale.

The European Committee on Radiation Risk publishes a brochure of recommendations for the public (unfortunately in English): http://www.euradcom.org/2011/ecrr2010.pdf
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by Christophe » 14/04/11, 19:53

Interesting article, we understand well pkoi the info is less and less detailed!

Uh bomb? Is this a joke? What does it take like bomb power to make a landslide ... of the "small" nuclear?

Are there any US soldiers nostalgic for Hiroshima or what?

Not without joking: the drowning "on earth" is much more realistic.
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by hic » 14/04/11, 21:13

Christophe wrote:Interesting article, we understand well pkoi the info is less and less detailed!

Uh bomb? Is this a joke? What does it take like bomb power to make a landslide ... of the "small" nuclear?

Are there any US soldiers nostalgic for Hiroshima or what?

Not without joking: the drowning "on earth" is much more realistic.


hi Christophe

it's not a joke
It seems that it is a demining method!

this before the final runaway : Shock:
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by Padawan » 14/04/11, 21:58

hello all a friend sent me this link but hallucinate a little to see these video !! ??
they are serious its Japanese! finally their rulers ... javascript: emoticon

Monju nuclear reactor, much worse than Fukushima?

http://lesmoutonsenrages.wordpress.com/ ... fukushima/

As for bombing fukushima (the power plant)
we are completely delirious !!! ??? and what do we do with the materials ejected during the explosion, we collect them by hand ??? We are serious! a delirium of a denial to the American assembly which had had to water his Mac Do too much at noon .... PFFFFFF !!!
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by Obamot » 14/04/11, 23:12

Amazing, completely incredible, dumbfounding, I can't find the words ...

Who has seen Special Envoy: that is beyond comprehension. When I made an inventory of the problems posed by nuclear power, I did not think so well! This is exactly what happened in Fukushima. The engineer who designed the power stations was not listened to, and the defects which he noted during construction, and then during operation, were not heard. No one wanted to believe it. All the constraints of the materials of which I spoke to you above or even in other threads, are proven. I did not expect to be so close to reality.

He even sent a file to the IAEA, which was never followed up. This United Nations organization is therefore to some extent responsible for the Fukushima accident! Worse, another plant is built at the precise location of the junction of plates, at the very epicenter where the next big-one is expected! Those who thought of Godzilla, did not believe so well to say ...

FYI, safety standards are not met for "liquidators", where they should only work 50 minutes and maximum five hours a day they admit to working up to seven hours, flicker sensors (size d 'man) to measure their level of radioactivity in Tokyo hospital, panics in red at all checkpoints. Worse: 90% of the liquidators are hired by "private companies", which will therefore escape all control and inventory (same practices in Europe ... for workers at high risk in power plants ...). The medics see 50 to 60 people, come to be "decontaminated" per day ... In principle, those there should never return to the plant since having reached or exceeded the annual allowable dose ... But some say they are close to go back ...

If it is such a slump in a country like Japan, I let you imagine elsewhere .... The nuclear situation in the world is therefore very serious !!! Worse than anything you can imagine.

It's crazy.

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Obamot wrote:Do you have a connection? : Shock:

hi Obamot
we’ve been talking about it for 10 days on physical.sci

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by Remundo » 14/04/11, 23:50

I watched,

I am not at all surprised.

But I understand the words you use.

All of humanity has childish features.

She makes her carefree and stubborn caprice, then the slaps fall, and there she says that perhaps she should moderate her desire.

The Japanese have made their whim: full of nuclear energy, a lot and quickly. Earthquake + tsunami chopper fell on dangerous toy
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