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A good plan in liberalization?




by Helene Desgrottes » 23/08/07, 13:56

I have found a contract that guarantees that my energy prices will always stay below regulated rates until they disappear. I do not understand that we do not talk about it any more because that removes the inconvenience of not being able to return to the regulated tariff. What do you think? I checked, everything is fine in the contract.
I got advice from http://www.selectra.info which gives information to individuals on different suppliers, and it looks reliable.

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by Woodcutter » 24/08/07, 00:59

Can we know who is this supplier who offers such a guarantee?
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by Helene Desgrottes » 24/08/07, 11:17

I do not want to advertise on the forum in case it is not serious but look on the concomparator http://www.selectra.info
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by Christophe » 24/08/07, 11:22

Woodcutter wrote:Can we know who is this supplier who offers such a guarantee?


It is not a supplier but a comparator but it is necessary to provide his personal information before having the estimate ...

There is this page which is interesting:
http://www.selectra.info/choisirelectricite.html

Look at the results I bet the site is owned by POWEO resellers ... Am I wrong?

On the other hand, the legal mentions give nothing except 2 names and 1 GSM: http://www.selectra.info/mentionslegales.html

There is another free comparator him:
http://www.comparenergies.com/

It is on the directory since 1 moment: https://www.econologie.com/annuaire/libe ... -0025.html
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by Helene Desgrottes » 24/08/07, 11:34

Yes, I saw its comparators there too, but I went to several sites and they gave different prices for the same consumption .... But the tip selectra advised me for free and I asked them to explain myself clearly how they calculated the price for not getting me, I know what to do now. does anyone have an idea of ​​why online comparators do not list all the same prices?
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by Christophe » 24/08/07, 11:41

Helene Desgrottes wrote:Does anyone have any idea why online comparators do not all point to the same price?


Yes it's simple because nobody knows anything about it !!

Liberalization means that prices are not regulated (not stable) and therefore vary according to supply and demand and can go up in flames. Of course resellers are careful not to provide such information.

For example during the heat wave of 2003 the real price of electricity had been multiplied by 100 per peak!

The interest of liberalization is not really to pay less ... despite what people believe. On the other hand there is a real interest: that of being able to choose a cleaner source!

But the only provider of green electricity (but therefore necessarily a little more expensive) are valid EnerCoop and GEG incidentally it has kindly linked econo: http://www.geg.fr/recherches-frequentes.php

See: https://www.econologie.com/liberalisatio ... -3410.html
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by lucaslegrand » 24/08/07, 12:14

Not the prices offered by the suppliers are stable over one year, so all comparators should give similar figures in the short term. So the explanation does not come from the. in fact electricity market prices have a partial impact on suppliers, but they do not report it immediately to customers.

I have no information that the green offers of Direct Energie, Electrabel and Poweo are not valid. Details on it?
On the other hand, the savings put forth by all alternative suppliers are real. The only problem is the irreversibility of the change: but several suppliers guarantee prices lower than this tariff up to 2010 or even forever for a supplier that I will not mention.
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by Christophe » 24/08/07, 12:24

Yes that may explain these variations but logically the method of calculation should be explained no?

Moreover if the prices are stable on 1 year, the law says that it is impossible to return, for a housing, the regulated tariff after having left it ...

It's a bit like an advertisement for a credit that says: do not pay anything the first month 12 ...

Now from an overall econological point of view we are FOR an INCREASE in the price of energy, but we must not give a damn about the mouth of people by promising them that liberalization is reducing their bill because in fact, in the end, it's the opposite ...

I repeat: the only interest is green electricity!
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by zac » 24/08/07, 15:40

lucaslegrand wrote: even forever for a supplier that I will not mention.


Hi lucaslegrand and welcome

Apparently you can read and write I deduce that you have more than 4 years; normally in your old age one should no longer believe in Santa Claus.

A contract of type is signed between a natural person (you) and a moral person (the supplier).
In almost all contracts in case of disappearance of one of the people the contract is broken.
So it is extremely simple, when we have pigeoned enough gogos to change the status of the company and therefore the contracts already signed.

See the post office which became a postal bank with fees multiplied by 60 in 2ans. : Evil:

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by lucaslegrand » 25/08/07, 10:40

Thank you for your irony towards me, I am very touched by such respect on this forum which nevertheless seems well attended.
I start from the point of view that some alternative providers can not do anything for the simple reason that they have an image to preserve in the eyes of the public (one of them sponsors for example the Experts on TF1) and their shareholders (the scam does not pay on the stock market). On the other hand, for your guidance, we are part of the European Union, which has implemented this liberalization and is a guarantor, like the Competition Council, of genuine competition in this market. It is therefore more than likely that alternative suppliers will have access to EDF's energy, less and less expensive, as their successive processes progress.
What is needed now is that the alternative suppliers have an added value compared to EDF: obviously they are cheaper (less structural costs) but they must also put forward GREEN energy offers for have a really positive impact.
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