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Re: Yellow Vests: Is the November 17 Call Justified? #GiletsJaunes




by sen-no-sen » 21/03/19, 21:19

Laws are measures aimed at adapting society to transformations.
For example, concerning the abolition of the death penalty, this measure should not be considered as an end but rather as an adaptation correlated to the economic and social balance of the moment.
It is quite possible that the death penalty will come back up to date in the decades to come ... when we will no longer be able to deal with the excessively high level of crime.*.
It is much the same thing with abortion, which consists in adapting the birth rate to the behavioral transformations induced by economic modifications.




*It is not so much the crime as the economic means to deal with it which is to be taken into consideration.
The US model shows it well, if there is money, as many people as possible can be locked up, and it can become a real business.
Conversely, a high level of crime correlated with a moribund economy can facilitate recourse to the generalization of the death penalty.
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by Exnihiloest » 26/03/19, 18:43

sen-no-sen wrote:...
The US model shows it well, if there is money, as many people as possible can be locked up, and it can become a real business.
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On the face of it I would say that less than 5% of the people in a society create more than 95% of the problems.
In prison, that would make a lot, and yet, it is little if 95% can have peace.
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by Exnihiloest » 26/03/19, 18:54

sen-no-sen wrote:...
It is quite possible that the death penalty will come back up to date in the decades to come ... when we will no longer be able to deal with the excessively high level of crime.*.
It is much the same thing with abortion which consists in adapting the birth rate to changes ...

It is a view denying the progress of ideas and mentalities. Yet we are no longer at the time of human sacrifices to satisfy the gods, in all countries of the world. There is real general progress, which admittedly can have some setbacks.
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by gildas » 27/03/19, 17:53

Everything is in the title!

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by Remundo » 27/03/19, 19:27

pouted ... you don't save 80% of the fuel with Giliers Pantone or magnets ...

for the rest there are ideas. Agrofuels are a small part of a renewable energy mix.
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by gegyx » 27/03/19, 19:31

maybe with a yellow vest? : Lol:
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by sicetaitsimple » 27/03/19, 19:45

Where he excels, from my point of view, is in the role of scarecrow to prevent birds from stinging his last sunflower seeds. For the rest.....
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by sen-no-sen » 27/03/19, 19:56

Exnihiloest wrote:
It is a view denying the progress of ideas and mentalities. Yet we are no longer at the time of human sacrifices to satisfy the gods, in all countries of the world. There is real general progress, which admittedly can have some setbacks.


There is no natural principle that societies change necessarily for the better, societies adapt to their environment and to historical fluctuations.Nothing is acquired.
Perhaps in our contemporary era we no longer sacrifice individuals to the gods, but we have not been able to atomize populations and kill en masse in the Nazi, Soviet or Cambodian camps.
The progress of ideas is fully correlated with living conditions and our environment, homo sapiens has not undergone major cognitive evolution since antiquity, the idea of ​​general progress is only linked to the increase in living standards .
In the 70s it was possible to see women in mini skirts in Kabul ... it's a little more complicated nowadays.
At the time we could have said that mentalities were changing, it is clear that everything is not always for the best.
As regards the death penalty, it appears that the constitution is only a text and that this text does not freeze the real world.
Recently have spoken (Eric Ciotti of memory) of "center" of detention for file S. In the USA the center of Guantanamo has demonstrated that in the country of the freedom everything was possible, in fact everything is a matter of societal trauma.
To believe that there could be no turning back is a proof of naivety ... : roll:
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by Exnihiloest » 04/04/19, 17:25

sen-no-sen wrote:...
There is no natural principle that societies change necessarily for the better, societies adapt to their environment and to historical fluctuations.Nothing is acquired.
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If you speak of a planetary cataclysm, yes, nothing is certain.
Otherwise, it is well established, we will not see human sacrifices again. You have to see that on a global scale. Obviously there have been regressions but geographically localized. These special cases, like the mini-skirt which is no longer current in Lebanon, are marginal.

And the principle exists and is simple, that of evolution. Natural evolution is done in order to favor the perpetuation of the species. Man is an animal, adaptation through selection also concerns our choices.
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