Yellow Vests: Is the call of the November 17 justified? #GiletsJaunes

[Exnihiloest]

It's not good to win 3000 €, with the yellow vests, it's that you're a big fat man, that you have to close your mouth and break yourself:

We feel the tolerance, the love and the total absence of jealousy ...

[Remundo]

It's not good to win 3000 €, with the yellow vests, it's that you're a big fat man, that you have to close your mouth and break yourself:
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We feel the tolerance, the love and the total absence of jealousy ...

that's very bad, because all these guys should be united against the vertical power that leads them to oppose. The 2 categories (1500 € / month and 3000 € / month) are widely used and their taxes are used far too much to fill wells without a bottom of debt (banks) and grant privileges to the better off.

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

We can make everything tell everything ...

Yesterday I was with two business associates, one pro Yellow Vests and the other anti all, company in Hong Kong to avoid the abuse of corporate property and do it at its head fiscally (I summarize and I quote without having verified the well founded) while continuing to enjoy the security.

At least this one he assumes his cynicism ...

Another patrimonial retired submerged real estate regularly passes on the roundabouts give them blankets, furniture and tutti quanti ... and drink shots with them.

And I must find this issue of France Inter memory where a subject to the ISF said that its suppression had won him thousands of € and it was theft ... of the people.

In short ... c ... there are everywhere and always

[Christophe]

+ 2 with you 2

Speaking of con

[Grelinette]

It's not good to win 3000 €, with the yellow vests, it's that you're a big fat man, that you have to close your mouth and break yourself:
VIDEO
We feel the tolerance, the love and the total absence of jealousy ...

that's very bad, because all these guys should be united against the vertical power that leads them to oppose. The 2 categories (1500 € / month and 3000 € / month) are widely used and their taxes are used far too much to fill wells without a bottom of debt (banks) and grant privileges to the better off.

Debates and discussions do not really make sense anymore, words and facts have become so commonplace.
As for the numbers, they are beyond comprehension:

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https://www.forbes.fr/classements/class ... -francais/

Not to mention the high-level frauds, tax optimizations and other "legal shenanigans" which explain why exorbitant capital is flying away who knows where, or remains in the same pockets which continue to swell, swell, swell ...

It is a complementary, more discreet (but faster) economic phenomenon that we forget, which comes just after the "Economic runoff": the phenomenon of"Economic Capillarity": the money goes back faster in the pocket from which it trickled!

Come on, to cleanse your ears a little and get some common sense in the ideas at the beginning of the year:

And he also tells beautiful stories, starting with this naive question: "But why does a country as rich as France produce so much poverty?"(10mn55 from the interview).

As my plumber says: "The economy is as simple as plumbing: if on one side there are disproportionate pipes which siphon off all the flows, on the other hand there is absolutely nothing!"

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Debates and discussions do not really make sense anymore, words and facts have become so commonplace.
As for the numbers, they are beyond comprehension:
fortune table France.jpg
https://www.forbes.fr/classements/class ... -francais/

It is the absurd style of painting that stupidly stigmatizes big fortunes.

What is needed is that EVERYONE pays the tax: point bar.

In any case do not dream of the big cheats or optimizers do not steal our country but the whole planet.

I think that the calculation must exist somewhere in the whole of the taxes that escape the states at the world level.

I do not speak for this list but we should rejoice to have great fortunes that REALLY pay their taxes in France or in their country of origin instead of pointing fingers.

It is with the names of those that we should make big posters to praise their civism and their ... patriotism in the end.

I do not know if such a list exists but it would be good to him (them) to advertise and communicating vases to denounce the others or even to boycott them.

[Grelinette]

It is the absurd style of painting that stupidly stigmatizes big fortunes.

Hello nico239,
Let's open our eyes and see things as they are: for years, years, not a month, not a month, goes by without the French media denouncing the financial turpitudes of most of these big fortunes, and we are helpless and jaded at these absurd and "inappropriate" greed (to use the euphemism of communication generally used) which disintegrates from year to year the economy and the morals of our country.

To stigmatize them, stupidly or not, and the last thing we can do, even if it does not help much except to evacuate the feeling of injustice that makes us so angry.

While waiting to find an answer and a solution, it is necessary to repeat itself in loop the naïve question of the journalist Denis Robert: "But why does a country as rich as France produce so much poverty?" (and misery).

[perplex]

"With 1 million you couldn't have done anything"

It's not tax the problem, the main cause is the industrial production and its management, China 1,7 Md of humans, India 1,3Md, Ethiopia 105M, etc ... The distribution of wealth is already at work for a long time. Between 2005 and 2016, the average hourly wage of a Chinese manufacturing worker increased from 1,2 $ to 3,6 $, an increase of 300%.
The Chinese will also end up in the street, eaten by India and the others ... The rebalancing that Trump tries with his taxes, is a lost cause.

[Christophe]

As for the numbers, they go beyond understanding

Something intrigues me in this painting is the term "professional" ... which implies that it is the fruit of the "work" of billionaires ... and I'm kidding!

This is false (or at least abusive), I think, in several ways:
a) a part of the wealth of billionaires is necessarily private,
b) a significant part (the largest in most cases except Niels ...) comes from inheritance: an inheritance is not the fruit of one's labor but of one's (good) birth. Serge Dassault was a very bad businessman, for example ... without his father and his heritage he would have been a "who is nothing" to use an odious Macronist term!
c) not to mention financial fraud, a large part must come from speculation and financial investments (including the inherited part): it's not really professional
d) The indication "and his family" means what? For us the work of our parents (brothers, sisters, aunt, uncles, and cousins ​​...) is not part of our heritage ...

Finally 2 important columns are missing in my opinion: the number of employees and salaries redistributed to employees for each of these groups.

These 2 columns would allow to see the groups that benefit the most from finance ... and those who are the most social!

A group that would employ 80 people with an average net salary of 000 € gross, or 2500 € "employer cost" or 3500 gross minimum wage ... would pay its employees: 2,3 * 80 = 000 equivalent gross minimum wages per year! It's not nothing either ...

ps: Serge Dassault is dead and can be deleted from this list ...

[Christophe]

It is the absurd style of painting that stupidly stigmatizes big fortunes.

Exactly: what do you think of my different remarks?