Addrelyn wrote:EDF took them over to the Ministry of the Environment, not the other way around.
I understood correctly, since EDF cites the ministry as a source.
But as I wrote, it's even more annoying:
- because EDF has not verified these figures;
- because the ministry has published these figures whose bias in favor of new nuclear power plants cannot be ignored.
Addrelyn wrote:Obviously, they do not take into account the network losses or the "indirect" power supply to the power stations since they count it in the consumption.
So either EDF ignores that its power stations consume energy, or did they knowingly decide not to talk about it?
Generous when you want to compare to other energies.
Addrelyn wrote:Why no solar thermal, it is because there is none in France therefore no possible measure. (There aren't many in the world either). Same reason
Who are you kidding?
If the Ministry of Energy and EDF ignore the existence and the interest of solar thermal energy, they must change their profession: I understand better why Odeillo no longer has credit, its creator had to die in a closet ?
Addrelyn wrote:Then, the factor 10, I think at first glance that the calculation that you made is a bit wobbly. I read it again and edit my post.
2 tonnes of pellets are needed to make 10MWh, the equivalent of 1t of fuel.
Addrelyn wrote:After, it is a document for the general public, it is by definition incomplete.
To take the general public for idiots is not the role of the ministry.
Addrelyn wrote:bernardd, you really make a cheese for nothing on these numbers
If these figures were useless, why did EDF put them in its brochure?
These are figures that serve to scare, with the old antiphon: outside nuclear, no salvation.
It is all the more important to show the "soft" manipulation that they cover, as well as the de facto collusion between a supposedly independent ministry and EDF.
I speak of "soft manipulation" because to this type of manipulation, we can always answer
exactly as you answer, by emotional like:
- "it's not him, it's the other,"
- "you make a whole cheese out of it for nothing",
- "it is a general public document, it is by definition incomplete"
And manipulation goes to the hatch.
I think that publishing false figures in the context of a public consultation can hurt.