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Prohibition of incandescent bulbs in Europe?




by Christophe » 03/03/08, 15:59

The debate is revived. This is a "good" economic pretext to launch a rumor that energy-saving light bulbs emit harmful waves ...

Towards the elimination of incandescent bulbs in the EU 03/03/2008 12:26 by Victor Roux-Goeken

The eco-design directive should be revised during 2008. Currently concerning 20 groups of everyday consumer products, it should go up to 25. The Commission wants to take advantage of this to ban incandescent bulbs.

In these times of predicted energy shortage and increasing concentration of greenhouse gases (GHGs) in the atmosphere, the incandescent bulb is heresy in many ways. According to the European Commission, electric lighting generates the equivalent of 70% of GHG emissions from passenger cars worldwide, and it is particularly energy inefficient. Used for 130 years, the incandescent bulb wastes 90% of the energy used in the form of heat.

Suddenly, the European Commission plans to ban incandescent bulbs. Or, more precisely, "to introduce energy efficiency criteria such that they would make it impossible for them to access the market", explains Ferran Tarradellas Espuny, spokesperson for the Commission's Directorate-General for Industry.

Of course, with this measure, factor 4 will not be reached tomorrow. But this ban would already be a small step in the right direction. Replacing incandescent bulbs with compact fluorescent bulbs - also called low consumption - will save 45 billion kilowatt hours in the European Union each year, calculates the Commission. Or the annual electricity consumption, all devices combined, of 10 million households in the EU.

The ban will go through the revision of the eco-design directive (1), which aims to improve the efficiency of certain groups of products. Its scope should be extended to 25 in 2008 or 2009 (20 currently). Still, "the Commission's decision will not be made without an economic and environmental impact study," said the spokesperson. And it will only affect bulbs in stock, not those on the market. ”

A point of view welcomed by the European recycling union, which advocates a progressive elimination of incandescent bulbs: 100 watts in 2009, 75 watts in 2011, etc. "The industry cannot immediately ensure the production of low-consumption light bulbs," judges Christophe Bresson, director of communications at Philips Lighting, one of the market leaders. In any case, it is time to pass the course: the lighting industry is the only one to have made almost no modification to its main product, since the beginning of its marketing. " Philips guarantees that it will be able to remove mercury from low-consumption lamps, which makes it a "dangerous" waste, in the coming years.


(1) The eco-design directive (2005/32 / EC) concerns in particular heating and hot water production equipment, electric motors, lighting in the residential and tertiary sectors, household appliances, equipment office in the residential and tertiary sectors, consumer electronics and HVAC systems (heating, ventilation and air conditioning). It will be extended among others to bulbs, chargers and batteries, washing machines and cars.


Source: http://www.journaldelenvironnement.net/ ... DE&ctx=129

Edit: it's confirmed https://www.econologie.com/forums/interdicti ... t6676.html
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by bamboo » 04/03/08, 17:14

Something that worries me:
some say: as it consumes less, you can replace your incandescent 40W with compact fluorescent 20W ...
It is true that it consumes less ... But hey, if 40W were enough before, it would be better to replace them with 5W, or 7W eventually ...
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by gregdu13250 » 21/03/08, 18:26

It's fine to ban incandescent lamps, but outside the fluorescent tubes take almost 5 minutes to light up with about 10 seconds of preheating (they have trouble turning on what), only the ends are at full power, the middle is very unstable when it is below 5 ° C and ruins faster
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by Rabbit » 21/03/08, 22:30

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by chatelot16 » 22/03/08, 01:11

it's not possible: they won't stop making stupid regulations

a compact fluorescent lamp lit for a long time consumes less than the incandescent lamp of the same brightness

but in places of passage: the fluorescent lample starts to light up well when it is needed, and burns out before being damped because lit too often: conclusion we leave it lit all the time so as not to burn it out: profit = loss : Evil:

for outdoor lighting or for humid places: electronic fluo always broken down : Evil:

for temporary installations where the price must be minimum: incandescent lamps are the best

for construction sites with generator: the fluorescent electronics do not last 2 days

for activities that require a balanced light: incandescent lamp essential

IT WILL BE AN INFRINGEMENT OF FREEDOM

we have already been hit with a lot of electrical equipment: we impose things supposedly for security which increases the price and we stop the sale of simple equipment

and we impose waste : Evil:
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by chatelot16 » 22/03/08, 01:17

Philips guarantees that it will be able to remove mercury from low-consumption lamps, which makes it a "dangerous" waste, in the coming years.


what is this annerie: a fluorescent lamp is a mercury vapor lamp with a fluorescent layer to transform UV into visible light

where does this text come from? we cannot let impunity write this : Evil:
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by Arthur_64 » 22/03/08, 08:06

And if we just tax free fluorescent bulbs ???
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by Chatham » 22/03/08, 09:44

chatelot16 wrote:
Philips guarantees that it will be able to remove mercury from low-consumption lamps, which makes it a "dangerous" waste, in the coming years.


what is this annerie: a fluorescent lamp is a mercury vapor lamp with a fluorescent layer to transform UV into visible light

where does this text come from? we cannot let impunity write this : Evil:


And? What is the problem? Well yes there is mercury in fluorescent lamps, mercury which passes to 99% in household waste (there is no efficiently organized recycling channel, sometimes there is just a bin in the recycling centers), incinerators, then spread in nature ...
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by chatelot16 » 25/03/08, 14:26

of course i prefer something that favors the fluorescent than that which prohibits the glowing

but what would be very good for fluorescent, it would be to standardize a solution to separate the ballast and the tubes

it cannot be done on the initiative of a single manufacturer: because it would really require a universal ballast adapting to a whole range of tube: the fluorescent lamp would become really ecological

the automatic ballast would not need to be miniaturized and would be easily repairable: the lamp would be where you want at the end of a wire
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by Giul » 08/04/08, 12:52

'Lut

an article in Le Monde: the failures of low-consumption light bulbs



http://www.lemonde.fr/aujourd-hui/artic ... id=1031443

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