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by elephant » 13/01/15, 09:43

agree with the last post of izentrop.

For the leds lightening instead of the halo, I confirm 11 X 3 watts, it is under the limit of your jindel transfos, normal that it does not work.
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by izentrop » 13/01/15, 10:36

elephant wrote:For the leds lightening instead of the halo, I confirm 11 X 3 watts, it is under the limit of your jindel transfos, normal that it does not work.
Reread his first post, the problem is not at this level. This chandelier is a gas plant, from what I understood:
The wall switch controls 2 remotely controlled switches.

- The first switches 3 halogen lamp circuits powered by three power supplies. This circuit works even with the new leds.

- The 2e switches 2 LED circuits via 2 power supplies 5 v. It is the one who makes break.
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by tophe59540 » 13/01/15, 17:43

Ok but I realized that I said a lot of bullshit
I did a lot of research and I made the difference between halogen transformer
LED power supply and all that exists in the field of led
so in my instal I have 3 tranfo halogen white
1 rb black box that serves to change the color of leds
and the other black box serves to regulate a max voltage of 5v if I do not deceive
so I'm going to change the halogen transformer one by one we'll see
And yes, the chandelier is connected to the earth, why his genius ??
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by tophe59540 » 13/01/15, 18:33

izentrop wrote:
elephant wrote:For the leds lightening instead of the halo, I confirm 11 X 3 watts, it is under the limit of your jindel transfos, normal that it does not work.
Reread his first post, the problem is not at this level. This chandelier is a gas plant, from what I understood:
The wall switch controls 2 remotely controlled switches.

- The first switches 3 halogen lamp circuits powered by three power supplies. This circuit works even with the new leds.

- The 2e switches 2 LED circuits via 2 power supplies 5 v. It is the one who makes break.

I recapitulate
I summarize on the remote there is button that manages the switch
on the first one when we press 1 first 3 halogen
on the second button we manage 8 another halogen on another circuit
on the third one manages the circuit of 60 led and with each pulse its change of color
the fourth serves him made a mix between halo and led in random position

when I go up the smd instead of the halo it lights up
but more control of the switch with the remote control
so I have to use the wall switch each time I press his change of mod
but I think that his guns the switch so jen is ordering a

But it is very likely that one of the transformer is at the origin and that makes disjunct
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by tophe59540 » 13/01/15, 19:09

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For those who did not understand the problem just led
original and not the smd that I replace
but the problem is that it is due to this change
I put back the halogen puic indeed I turn below the threshold of the tranfo
suddenly the 11 halo works but the original led breaks when I turned them on
that is clearer
now small question the leds are in serie if a vien has cramer that it passes it?
It does not come on at all or it can defeat a transformer that will disjoin?
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by tophe59540 » 13/01/15, 19:56

Can I connect each direct transformer to 220v without going through the switch
and without laughing to do more damage? Since everything is in series it is the gas plant
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by tophe59540 » 13/01/15, 19:57

One more question I do not understand the jindel transfo indicates 0.33A and 0.44A
it's about the input stream?
because I found similar transformer in the trade even number of watt but he displays 6.6A and 8.8A for some but he talks about current output the c?
sorry I learn from day to day to repair this chandelier
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by tophe59540 » 13/01/15, 19:57

I'm sorry, I'm sorry
but I despere that it is coming back to me and that it does not work!
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by RV-P » 15/01/15, 12:28

- Hello, tophe59540!
- From what I see pictures of your chandelier, 3 central lamps and 8 lamps in intermediate crown are halogens, is not it?!? ...
- So, if you want to replace that with LEDs, why do not you take 12V 3 / 5A DC power supplies? It exists in 15 / 24V for laptop power supplies (laptops). You would have to find 12V!
- Power supplies for "end of run" 12V 4,2A PC monitors (I have one for Nortek / Infinity 19 "monitors in front of me) could be suitable, since the size would allow them to" fit "into the chandelier !
- For 3 central lamps, an 12V 2A power supply would seem to fit perfectly!
- Overall dimensions:
* For the 12V 4,2A monitor power supply: 130 x 60 x 40 mm (Sometimes you can find smaller!).
* For the 12V 2A power supply: 95 x 43 x 25 mm.
- For power: 3x2W 8 LED lamps = 48W, 3x2W x 3 = 18W!
- It's a "digging" track!
- @ +!
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by tophe59540 » 16/01/15, 03:01

thanks to you
that's probably what I'm going to do that I would have solved my original LED problem
I find a power supply in 5v constant 20w / 2A type pc for 60 led whose concern
if I'm not mistaken they are leds to 20ma so 60x0.02 = 1.2A is 5 × 1.2 = 6w
With 20w I think it's a bit too much I will aim in a small electronic power supply of 10w
because 10w does not exist in pc power at last not in dc5v dapres ske I saw!
I change it and then I see to change the tranfo halo to switch to full led
Because the sound still disjects and always
tomorrow I test the multimeter each transformer separately to locate the fault
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