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by Christophe » 30/05/11, 14:46

Well your calculation is completely wrong ...

What forces you to use all the slots of a luminaire?

And if it's the decor that annoys you, look at the economical light bulbs with a flame (flexible, unbreakable), there is no more design on the market!

https://www.econologie.com/shop/eclairag ... ique-c-100

After, as I just said, you do what you want with your retina!

ps: hold it is not the ikea or 1st price bulbs which are likely to obtain an afnor certification: https://www.econologie.com/forums/ecolabel-e ... 10836.html
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by Macro » 30/05/11, 15:06

14 € multiplied by 24 bulbs ca gives 336 € ...

They are undoubtedly the megaman ... And will have a place in our house the day when the collective conscience will have changed and that it will be more important to buy an object of quality rather than a lighting that we will put directly scrap metal, the day when it will be necessary to clean it from the insults of flies so its forms are tarabiscottés and its coating fragile ...

And then the LED lamps do not come from ikéa ... I have to look at the invoice .. I think they cost within 2 € 50 each.

What is certain is that the lighting is greenish vampire film atmosphere : Mrgreen:
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by Christine » 30/05/11, 15:29

Christophe wrote:What forces you to use all the slots of a luminaire?


Lao Tseu said: "He is no worse deaf than the one who does not want to hear"

Josette said: "He is no worse deaf than the husband who does not want to buy light bulbs for his wife"

Freud said: "All the more so as it would deprive him of being able to moan every evening"

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by Macro » 30/05/11, 15:44

Christophe wrote:
What forces you to use all the slots of a luminaire?



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by Macro » 30/05/11, 15:55

Christine wrote:
Freud said: "All the more so as it would deprive him of being able to moan every evening"



Not at all, I'm a lamb ... she's the dragger ...

Stop shooting the ambulance ... At home I am the only one with an econological conscience ... I fight tirelessly every day against the excessive consumption of mine ...

If I had let them do it ... There would be 24 60W incandescent bulbs on the two chandeliers for sure ...

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by Christophe » 30/05/11, 15:58

So if you want to use all the slots, put one bulb in 5 in compact fluorescent ... let the others in LED ...

At least you will see something there!


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by Macro » 30/05/11, 17:46

These are LUXARTEC 24 leds 1.8W warm white 46 lumens bulbs
at 19.90 the 4 at pearl.fr

We no longer say green, we say warm white ... : Mrgreen:
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by Christophe » 30/05/11, 21:02

1) 5 € for a bulb that lights nothing, it's pure theft :)

2) This is false advertising:

# Consumption: only 2 W
# Light as much as a classic 25W bulb


If it were true each bulb would be at least 250 lumens ...

These are the kind of commercial lies that plague honest traders like us! It just makes me stack up!

Warm white is a correct term: these are bulbs between 2700 ° K and 3000 ° K. To put in connection with the IRC ... (= 100 for the sun, 30 for a sodium bulb, probably not more than 65 for your bulbs ... 92 for the megaman nature color https://www.econologie.com/shop/eclairag ... ique-c-100 and 82 for the others)
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by Macro » 31/05/11, 08:28

Christophe wrote:1) 5 € for a bulb that lights nothing, it's pure theft :)

2) This is false advertising:

# Consumption: only 2 W
# Light as much as a classic 25W bulb


If it were true each bulb would be at least 250 lumens ...

These are the kind of commercial lies that plague honest traders like us! It just makes me stack up!


I put one in the freezer to replace a 15w incandescent there is no photo it lights up louder .. So not so untrue as that ...

On the econo store for a 3W led bulb we find the same language: "equivalent to a 30W bulb" without lumens ...
https://www.econologie.com/shop/eclairag ... ique-c-100

With in addition the fabulous solicitation attention ladies and gentlemen it is high-end nothing to have ....

The last time I was given this one was for a rema tip top valve valve at 13 € ... Supposedly pro who farted me in the fingers after 40 valves pulled ...
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by Christophe » 31/05/11, 10:12

If they are not specified it is because they are not indicated by the manufacturer!
This sheet was written in 2008 when there was still a lot of shit led on the market ... so yes it is a quality bulb compared to what we could find (and that we still find in some case...)

In spot lighting, we often do not give the lumens but the candelas and the cone at X cm! As it does not speak to most people, it is not specified on the product sheet.

Velleman now specifies the lumens on these new models: https://www.econologie.com/shop/ampoules-led-c-90
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