Neon that cracks and blows the circuit breaker replaced by 230V Led Neons

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Re: Neon that cracks (explodes?) And trips the circuit breaker?




by gegyx » 24/11/20, 21:16

just an aside of language :?
the neon tube makes a red light.
What we called "neon", by abuse, in fact are "fluorescent"
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Re: Neon that cracks (explodes?) And trips the circuit breaker?




by izentrop » 24/11/20, 23:24

Christophe wrote:I installed the app and I have exactly the same 8500 at about 20 cm and 800 at 1m from the ground ... under 1 single neon (but the 2 are on, the other is about 3 m away see the config on the photos : https://www.econologie.com/avantages-co ... -halogen /) ...
If you do not have the same ceiling height, the measurement at 1 m from the floor is not the same.

To avoid the influence of other tubes, it would be best if you both take the measurement 1 m from the tube.

Nevertheless, if the laptops are of different brand and age, the comparison may not be valid without a good calibration ... https://www.lightzoomlumiere.fr/article ... s-du-luxe/
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Re: Neon that cracks (explodes?) And trips the circuit breaker?




by Christophe » 25/11/20, 00:38

Yes izy I said above that it was only indicative ...

Garage heights are more or less standard eh ... : Cheesy:

Well the best is that he tests the led neon ... and we will see his impression ...
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by Macro » 25/11/20, 08:16

Christophe wrote:
Garage heights are more or less standard eh ... : Cheesy:



Uh .. Do you have an elevator bridge in yours? : Mrgreen: because what I call my garage ... still increased my housing tax by 300 € per year .... When I attached it to the house after the tenant left ... I specified luminaires at 3 m from the ground ...
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by Christophe » 25/11/20, 08:40

Ah sorry, I didn't know you had a Black Garage! : Mrgreen:

Now what matters is the efficiency of the lighting on the ground.

You know my opinion on LED neon lights ... it's up to you to test ... takes 6 of 50W ... if that's not enough add a few later ...

ps: not seen the 3m ... but osef :D
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by izentrop » 25/11/20, 08:41

Macro wrote:Uh .. Do you have an elevator bridge in yours? : Mrgreen: because what I call my garage ... still increased my housing tax by 300 € per year .... When I attached it to the house after the tenant left ... I specified luminaires at 3 m from the ground ...
If it's 3-year-old tubes on electronic ballasts, you don't necessarily have to change them, the yield loss is not so fast
Image https://www.renovermonecole.be/fr/conte ... ou-pas-led

On the other hand, you can add switches so as not to necessarily turn on the 12 tubes at the same time. : Wink:
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by Christophe » 25/11/20, 09:11

You forgot Mamita's bill !! : Cheesy:
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by Macro » 25/11/20, 10:13

izentrop wrote:If it's 3-year-old tubes on electronic ballasts, you don't necessarily have to change them, the yield loss is not so fast

The tubes are 3 years old ... But the ballasts are at least 10 years old ...


izentrop wrote:On the other hand, you can add switches so as not to necessarily turn on the 12 tubes at the same time. : Wink:


the separation of the zones is planned ... with automatic ignition when the door is opened
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by izentrop » 25/11/20, 10:21

Macro wrote:The tubes are 3 years old ... But the ballasts are at least 10 years old ...
I have electronic ballasts that are more than 10 years old, but they are not worn out.
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Re: Neon that cracks and blows the circuit breaker replaced by 230V Led Neons




by Christophe » 03/06/21, 15:03

So someone else switched to neon led here?

I continue my exploration of new LED neon lights. I received new models even more powerful integrated on chassis from Silumen: all are directly supplied with 230V AC, integrated transformer therefore!

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From left to right :

1) 45W wide pendant light: 120cm * 19cm * 7cm metal frame.

https://www.silumen.com/fr/reglette-led ... 200k_5500k

2) 40W thin pendant light: 120cm * 5cm * 7cm metal frame

https://www.silumen.com/fr/suspension-l ... 000k_8000k

3) 48W curved led strip: 150 cm * 7 cm * 2.5 cm plastic metal frame

https://www.silumen.com/fr/reglette-led ... 300k_3500k

4) 60W curved led strip: 150 cm * 7 cm * 2.5 cm plastic metal frame

https://www.silumen.com/fr/reglette-led ... 200k_5500k

I go up, test this and I will tell you again! I would like to recycle my old flywheel as a "mad max" lighting gantry!

The 60W will snap in my opinion!
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