Lifetime monitors and flat screen TV: plasma and LCD

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by jean63 » 14/12/07, 23:13

Gregconstruct wrote:Since plasmas and other LCDs have less than 10 years of general public circulation, it seems difficult to get a real idea of ​​their lifespan ...

Well it's my opinion... : Cheesy:

Before beating the 20 years of life of my old TV, there is still work to do!

We can only judge the duration on the real .......... totally agree with you.

Commercial or advertising promises are made to entice the customer.

I have already been able to tell the difference on a fridge: the first one bought in 1 died in 1975 (1995 years); the next one bought in 20, died in 1995 (2006 years) ........ I'm afraid the next one will only last 10 years !!!

For the washing machine: the 1st 1975-2003 (28 years) and again, there was a leak that could be repaired, the next one does not speak about it.

Cars and all the rest: same fight !!!

We no longer repair, we replace: cost of labor + too expensive parts + too complex devices because electronic everywhere (integrated circuits made in China in the chain).
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by Gregconstruct » 15/12/07, 12:45

The same goes for a simple bike!
Those who are new to mountain biking and buy a top-of-the-range bike (disc brakes, multi-point adjustable suspensions, ...) risk at their beginnings of spending more time reading the user manual and doing their mechanics rather than making limits on his biclous.

And in my opinion, the lifespan will be shorter than my old mountain bike that I kept for 15 years!
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by elephant » 15/12/07, 18:50

your 399 euros of warranty extension is far from free, but, when you know that this kind of machine can only be repaired by standard exchange of expensive sub-assemblies (500 euros easy), it makes me think: it would make me think too much bitch about breaking down after 2 years.
Personally, I am quite in favor of paying "for a device" for a defined, but guaranteed time. Some firms had started renting twenty years ago: it's a way of life.
That said, it is true that there are still guys who help you out with 9-year-old Philips K11 and K20 chassis with their eyes closed. Me, it's been 15 years that I no longer buy new TV: I have a friend who sells me "refurbished" for a ridiculous price.
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by Gregconstruct » 15/12/07, 23:57

elephant wrote: gives me "refurbished" for a ridiculous price.


Gene ???? Kesski says ????? :|
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by Christine » 16/12/07, 09:18

Gregconstruct wrote:
elephant wrote: gives me "refurbished" for a ridiculous price.


Gene ???? Kesski says ????? :|


Well if the French-speaking Belgians between them begin to understand each other more, we are very badly off : Mrgreen:
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by Gregconstruct » 16/12/07, 09:26

Christine wrote:Well if the French-speaking Belgians between them begin to understand each other more, we are very badly off : Mrgreen:


He must speak a dialect coming from the west of Condroz! So, if we do not come from the same reserve, it sometimes happens that we do not understand each other! : Mrgreen:
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by Chatham » 16/12/07, 10:10

citro wrote:: arrow: Indeed, catodic tube TVs and LCD TVs consume less than 100W while plasma TVs consume between 300 and 400W!


Sorry, this is totally wrong:
You compare the screen consumption of
equal screen area (all in 16/9) and you see that a full HD LCD consumes barely less (10%) than a full HD plasma, when the cathodes, they shoot their last cartridges (but I still have my old Thomson 72cm 3/4 100hz which works wonderfully)
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by I Citro » 16/12/07, 12:44

Chatham wrote:
citro wrote:: arrow: Indeed, catodic tube TVs and LCD TVs consume less than 100W while plasma TVs consume between 300 and 400W!


Sorry, this is totally wrong:
You compare the screen consumption of
equal screen area (all in 16/9) and you see that a full HD LCD consumes barely less (10%) than a full HD plasma, when the cathodes, they shoot their last cartridges (but I still have my old Thomson 72cm 3/4 100hz which works wonderfully)


I would have seen badly ... It has been a long time since I hung around a TV section to watch the drinks indicated on the rear panels of the devices (when they are found !!!).

On the other hand, some around me have replaced cathodics with LCDs of smaller size because they believe that the higher definition of the LCD allows the use of smaller screens and therefore less greedy ...
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by elephant » 16/12/07, 13:50

I have already been able to tell the difference on a fridge: the first one bought in 1 died in 1975 (1995 years); the next one bought in 20, died in 1995 (2006 years) ........ I'm afraid the next one will only last 10 years !!!


In 2005, we sold my mother's old Admiral fridge, bought in 1952, but still efficient! But as a specialist told us, "what would have been saved in energy if it had replaced it in 1980"

"refurbished"


it is an English word which roughly means: "reconditioned", renovated
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by Chatham » 16/12/07, 14:22

citro wrote:On the other hand, some around me have replaced cathodics with LCDs of smaller size because they believe that the higher definition of the LCD allows the use of smaller screens and therefore less greedy ...


Uh, I think it's more because the first LCDs were much more expensive : Cheesy:
if we go for example from a cathode screen 3/4 of 72 cm to a 16/9 LCD of the same diagonal, well it is beaucoup smaller...
In general, when you go from a catheter to a flat screen, especially in full HD, it is to take larger: for my part when I would replace my old 72cm, it will be for a 102 to 107cm 16/9 full HD, probably in plasma, because the LCD, question of brightness: blah ...
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