Interpretation of electromagnetic field measurements

[louisonb]

Hello,

I am fortunate to have been able to borrow an electromagnetic field meter from my work the PMM8053A with its probe to measure electromagnetic fields from 50 Hz.
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1st question:
Anyone know this device?
Do you know an affordable electromagnetic field meter without being a gadget? I thought I saw that the PMM cost around 5000 euros and the 4000 probe ...
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So I made measurements in my home.
At the level of the beds I have between 1V / m for the luckiest and 8V / m for the least lucky.

In the living room I often have 10-20V / m

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2nd question:
which standard to adopt?
we see everything !!! from 2V / m to 5000V / m which is the French standard I think?
personally I set 10V / my not to exceed. Especially in the bedrooms. Am I right ???
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3nd question:
by cutting the juice on my floor where there are 2 rooms and where the electric cables pass in the floor I have a curious phenomenon.

In a room after cutting the current on the floor (maintains the ground floor of the current) the electric field decreases. Normal I think.

By cons in the other is the opposite?!?!?
I admit that I find it difficult to interpret this phenomenon. Or is there a big magnetic pollution in the room and some fields cancel each other out?!?!?
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In advance thank you to those who will light my lanterns

louison

[GuyDebordAttitude]

Hello!

You can find a very good device for around 100 €.

You can still call, it may still be on sale.
He won a test of devices like this a few years ago in Germany, so it's serious.
In the instructions, they recommend not to exceed 1V / m of exposure, and 10V / m for a few hours maximum.
At home I have a lot more: minimum a few V / m at the level of the beds in the best place, and up to 80V / m standing at the level of the head.
It is certain to cause mental fatigue in the short term, and according to many studies much more likely to suffer from Alzheimer's.
In the USA, specialists redo the electrical installations with the objective of not exceeding 20mV / m! The inhabitants feel better afterwards: they are less irritable and more smiling.
When I cut the meter the fields decrease very sharply in a few minutes and we feel better, that's clear.
The solution would be to replace all electrical cables with shielded cables, and install automatic switches that disconnect the devices from a room as soon as they are no longer turned on (and therefore replace the clock radio with a good old alarm clock). Because all of our electrical devices create electrical fields as soon as they are plugged in, fields that change very little when we turn on these devices.

PS: GigaHertz Solutions devices are renowned for their reliable and precise measurements.

[elephant]

The problem is that it is very difficult to do these double-blind experiments ...

That said, a friend of mine had his house "antennized" because his daughter was having trouble sleeping. They disappeared overnight, but the child was 3-4 years old. There remains the problem of knowing whether the parents can unconsciously transmit their conviction to the child.

[louisonb]

Hi,

Thank you for your answers !

I, too, will have changed the phase wires with shielded wire. Raa at 2 years old was good, but now it's cooked. The electric cables passed in the attic and I have done up the attic since

So I'm going to turn to IACs to isolate the rooms, it will be better than nothing.

For the detector I think I'm going to move towards Gigahertz-solutions. But the one that I covet at 100 euros at a resolution of the order of V I think, not top top but it will go qd same.

Regarding standards. This is the mess precisely in the absence of real French standards. 10V / m remains my psychological barrier, knowing that I try to limit the fields in the rooms.
Otherwise, I have no sleep bp and am healthy What drives me to this approach is that I have young children and I would like to protect them from this electromagnetic pollution ...

[elephant]

I ask myself a question: these fields certainly have a direction.
On the other hand, what seems dangerous to me is not so much the intensity of the field, but rather the duration of exposure to a field (a bit like exposure to radiation).
A body lying down during sleep in an unfavorable orientation, suffers more from the field concerned than a body which moves, because it remains in the same position.
An active body sometimes receives one, sometimes the other for very limited durations, thus limiting the effects.
It might be necessary to determine in the rooms the direction of the fields and move the beds away, or put them at 90 °. Popular wisdom says that you must sleep facing North South.
In short ... a field for reflection.

These stories of fields seem very real to me: 25 years ago, I lived a year in a house clearly subject to telluric fields (rue des 3 fontaines): my health was not well, my predecessors quickly left , the owner died of cancer. I moved and it was better. Later, I learned from the neighbors that the following tenants fell ill.

Not everyone gets sick, that does not preclude being cautious, until we know more, but, as I said before, double-blind experimentation is difficult, even criminal. .
In addition, there are the beliefs: that is to say the highest factor of influence of the human being, far superior to his need to breathe, to drink, to eat, to be safe

[Remundo]

Hi friends ... come on, I'm going to set the mood

Did you know that in good weather, solar electromagnetic waves (light) have a field of 1000V/m ?

That with regard to the EDF network, we are not dealing with an electric field outside the wires, and even less with waves, but with a quasistationary magnetic field, which has nothing to do with it?

And that many fear the tiny energies of their mobile phones at the same time when they have their [more or less] pretty buttocks exposed on the beach for hours at a time. UV infinitely more harmful than the far infrared of the herzian waves ... or else they watch their microwave dish wriggle through the glass (where you can really feel the small bursts of heat with each blow of magnetron) .

Because yes friends, in 2009, people suddenly complain about the waves of TV and radio and the microwave ... Fun when no one has ever complained since the ORTF.

What do you think

[GuyDebordAttitude]

Hi,

Thank you for your answers !

I, too, will have changed the phase wires with shielded wire. Raa at 2 years old was good, but now it's cooked. The electric cables passed in the attic and I have done up the attic since

So I'm going to turn to IACs to isolate the rooms, it will be better than nothing.

For the detector I think I'm going to move towards Gigahertz-solutions. But the one that I covet at 100 euros at a resolution of the order of V I think, not top top but it will go qd same.

Regarding standards. This is the mess precisely in the absence of real French standards. 10V / m remains my psychological barrier, knowing that I try to limit the fields in the rooms.
Otherwise, I have no sleep bp and am healthy What drives me to this approach is that I have young children and I would like to protect them from this electromagnetic pollution ...

The IAC for the rooms is ideal.
Is it possible to disconnect the cables, pull them out of the sheaths, then slide new shielded cables into the sheaths?
10V should not be a psychological barrier. I think I have to trust the specialists, who in Germany note effects from 1V / m, and in the USA from 20mV / m. I think it is better to go as low as possible today so as not to have any regrets in thirty years. Within the limits of his financial means of course. But hey, 100m of armored cables, the majority of French can afford them.

[GuyDebordAttitude]

Hi friends ... come on, I'm going to set the mood

I believe that instead of vainly trying to set the mood, you better read books, because there you are completely dumped, you understand nothing, you mix everything and its opposite.
Cultivating yourself before speaking has always seemed obvious to me personally.
To make an effort ... I know ... is to ask the impossible of internet users accustomed to the immediacy of the weave ... used to communicating their least opinion.

[Christophe]

Let it be clear once and for all:

Volt / Meters mean absolutely nothing if they are not reported to the frequency of the measured signal ...

The energy contained in a signal which emits 20V / m at 50Hz is not really the same as that contained in 20V / m at 2 Hz (400 Ghz) !!

This is the BIG problem of certain "pseudo-green" associations that I would not mention and which have created a real "ecological psychosis", for example around fluorescent bulbs by assimilating the standards in V / m of mobile telephony to low signals frequency. This would not bother me more than that if it's stupid newspaper people do not relay such information!

It's stupid and it's a bit (it's an image the proportions are surely not the same, I let physicists calculate the analogy) as if you were saying that the impact energy of a fly that crashes your figure at 20 km / h is the same as that of a car traveling at the same speed !!!

I would like all those who think that fluorescent bulbs are dangerous for health to take this test ... life-size


Concretely you will find documents EM standards reported on the frequency by doing a little research, we have already posted: https://www.econologie.com/forums/search.php

ps: no ad for the "concurrency" please ... we have 2 EM sensors on our shop: https://www.econologie.com/shop/detecteu ... p-143.html
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[GuyDebordAttitude]

What do you mean, no ad for the competition?
Are you a shop then?
This place is therefore not a forum free.
So I'm dealing with the moderators to vulgar merchants.
Are you aware of being pathetic when the competition sells meters far superior to what you sell?
And thank you for not telling me about standards!
Tell me more about the men who defined these standards.
I repeat: people who do not know who defined the standards at the WHO prove their incompetence.