Cyberlegality: Wikileaks hosted at OVH in France

Obamot · by **Obamot** » 09/12/10, 14:35

Bein in any case, if that is the case and they wanted to "test" opinion (hypothesis also already mentioned) ...

With more than 1000 mirrors ... they have their boomerang-bang-bang answer in their face! : Cheesy:

Christophe · by **Christophe** » 09/12/10, 14:38

A) Because of the effect of the little frog

Alain!

See the topic on manipulations: https://www.econologie.com/forums/strategie- ... 10016.html

It's a bit like this:

3 / The gradient strategy

To accept an unacceptable degree, just apply it gradually, "degraded" over a period of 10 years. This is the way that socio-economic conditions radically new were imposed during the years 1980 1990. massive unemployment, insecurity, flexibility, relocation, wages can no longer ensure a decent income, so many changes that would have caused a revolution if they had been applied suddenly.

Or:

6 / Appeal to the emotional rather than thinking

To appeal to the emotional is a classic technique for bypassing rational analysis, and thus the critical sense of the individual. In addition, the use of emotional register opens the gateway to the unconscious to implant ideas, desires, fears, impulses, or behavior ...

Where then is there a technical reason?

B) Erratum: today we are not at 800 broadcasts but 1203 / 251,287 ...

So let's say at 100 broadcasts per day, we will reach 250 in ... 000 days or almost 2500 years

It's blessed bread for the press ... 7 years of free "scoops" : Cheesy:

Obamot · by **Obamot** » 09/12/10, 18:32

Amazing, even incredible:

La Tribune.fr - Reuters 09/12/2010 | 17:10 wrote:The UN defends WikiLeaks in the name of freedom of expression

According to the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Navi Pillay, the pressure exerted on the suppliers and partners of the WikiLeaks site "can be interpreted as an attempt of censorship against the publication of information".

"I am concerned about reports of pressure being exerted on private companies, including banks, credit card companies and website providers, to close their lines of credit for donations to WikiLeaks. ". These remarks made Thursday at a press conference by the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Navi Pillay, should annoy more than one at the White House.

Especially since Navi Pillay points to the possible legal flaws in the supposed activism of states in their fight against WikiLeaks: "It is not yet defined whether the measures taken by private companies violate states' human rights obligations guaranteeing respect for freedom of expression. (But) they can be interpreted as an attempt to censor the publication of information, and could potentially constitute a violation of WikiLeaks' right to freedom of expression " she told reporters.

http://www.latribune.fr/technos-medias/ ... ssion.html

The Obama administration would no longer be an illusion in the eyes of the UN.

All of this news is a great signal for the future.

Christophe · by **Christophe** » 09/12/10, 19:00

Uh there I find it hard to follow the reasoning ...

Can we talk about censorship for information classified as Top secret or Secret Defense?

Do you want to talk about Karachi about the French defense secret? : Mrgreen:

Still have a subject that Wikileaks could "enlighten"

And on the Kursk too do you think? : Cheesy:

elephant · by **elephant** » 09/12/10, 19:04

The UN groans, Lula too and Poutine has just declared "this is democracy?".

Christophe · by **Christophe** » 09/12/10, 19:07

elephant wrote:Putin has just declared "is this democracy?"

Ah ah ah in the genre the host who does not care about charity ... we hardly do better ...

How many journalists or political opponents have zigzagged in Russia over the past 10 years? And we count that those who "left traces" ... the cast in concrete are forgotten forever ...

Obamot · by **Obamot** » 09/12/10, 20:14

... even if they are "licensed", do they have the exclusivity of political crimes?

follow the reasoning ..

... beinwoui, Navi Pillay says: "they can be interpreted", mean by that that according to the law, as nothing allows to say that what WikiLeaks does would be illegal or lawful. Since it is not they who have been "stealing the information" (but that we have provided them) it is the responsibility of freedom of expression and it is the right to be informed that prevails! As a result, any coercive action going against this type of provision in force in any democratic country "can be interpreted" as illegal ... Is not it?

However, it should be remembered that war crimes appeared thanks to this, and that WikiLeaks partially complied with the rules using the mainstream media as an "interface". They therefore did not fail in existing practices, they throw a stone in the pond around dubious practices (even criminal and / or illegal) which took place with impunity (well, it seems to me that we can say that without upset anyone who would like to be able to trust the rule of law ... Furthermore supposed to convey high values in mutual respect ... is that what we say?) : Mrgreen:

Obamot · by **Obamot** » 10/12/10, 16:25

A "Mots Croisés" with Calvi, guests of choice (Besson, Mélenchon, Le Monde,) interesting reactions ...:
http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x1h ... oId=xg0vnw

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xg0w6x ... oises_news

[Edit:] Ooooops ... There a little longer (full, WikiLeaks at the end):....>

Christophe · by **Christophe** » 10/12/10, 16:27

+1

I zapped on Monday and made a few references to it above.

Obamot · by **Obamot** » 11/12/10, 13:36

There would be no legal framework in the United States to prosecute "wikiLeakeurs". It would be “unconstitutional”. And highly listened to unofficial Vatican information channels, would also broadcast revelations on certain "cables" (unheard of! Although taken from the newspaper "Le Monde" ...):
http://www.express.be/sectors/fr/media/ ... 137213.htm

... this could well open the pandora's box of all-out whistle-blowing ... and perspectives on matters such as: vaccinations, 9/11, political crimes, etc. It may be "hot" in 2011 ...

But we should not rejoice too quickly (question of better transparency), we have already seen totalitarian governments vote emergency laws, so why not a political organization barely duocephalic ... On the other hand if they lock up Assange, even worse ... they will not stop this phenomenon.

I am still very surprised to attend all this, since for the first time we discover that the "Need for transparency" outweigh the "Need for constraint" peculiar to Mc Grégor's theories!

The first time also that on a "general plan", a "Need for development" would prevail over a "Need security" (here I am referring to Maslow ...)

WikiLeaks revealed that it would have ~ 4 technologically obsolete nuclear bombs in Europe dating from the fifties: : Shock:

http://fr.euronews.net/2010/12/10/rasmu ... ur-l-otan/

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