Linky meter: Operating and user manual?

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Re: Counter Linky: Operating and user manual?




by sicetaitsimple » 08/02/18, 20:46

izentrop wrote:Yeah! Well, the report, hello : Mrgreen:


It seems to me just more nuanced than what the media in 25 lines or 1mn of video. Okay, there are 45 pages.
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by Remundo » 08/02/18, 22:51

I personally have a Linky on one of my rackings, it brings me nothing at all compared to the previous meter.
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by izentrop » 09/02/18, 00:06

Normally they are able to do the 2: injection and racking.
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by Remundo » 09/02/18, 09:32

precisely, they put a linky on the racking and not on the injection ...

and yet the previous counter was modern (a SAGEM laid current 2012 of memory)
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by izentrop » 13/02/18, 08:24

Yes, no economic logic in this forced replacement.
The logic would have been to replace the oldest disc counters first. As they call the client before intervention, it is enough that they ask the question if it is not informed in their databases, which would be surprising.

We understand that the smart grid is an excuse to remove staff, while charging the transaction to the user, in a hidden but very real way
This deferral is therefore an advance made by Enedis, reimbursed
by consumers from 2021. The interest rate of this advance
is 4,6% and the interest amounts to 785 M € in total over the period 2015-
2030, that is on average 49 M € per year.
The deferred financing is carried out for the first
(3 million counters), from Enedis own funds and, for the second
tranche (31 million meters), in particular through an intra-group loan
rate of 0,77% backed by European Bank financing
Investment Bank (EIB). Enedis therefore benefits from a differential of
remuneration of 3,83%, for the part financed by the intragroup loan. In
assuming that 10% of the total deferred amount is financed from
equity and that the supplement is financed by borrowing at the rate of
0,77%, the average cost of the deferred would be for Enedis of 1,8%, ie a
margin 2,8% corresponding to an additional cost for users of 506 M € in
current euros and 464 M € 2014 in constant euros over the period
2014-2031. https://www.ccomptes.fr/sites/default/f ... Tome-1.pdf 13 page
I had to deal with ENEDIS recently, following 3 power cuts the same day, concerning the whole village. I called the breakdown service to hear "But sir, please contact your electricity supplier". I stayed with my question.
Another false competition, as with Orange in telephony : Evil:
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by Gaston » 13/02/18, 10:00

izentrop wrote:Yes, no economic logic in this forced replacement.
The logic would have been to replace the oldest disc counters first. As they call the client before intervention, it is enough that they ask the question if it is not informed in their databases, which would be surprising.
No, the economic logic is to have complete areas in which we can completely remove the meter reading tour.

If it is to have neighborhoods where 40% of meters still need to move, ENEDIS will do almost no savings.

In addition, the Linky relay to each other for transmission to the central, an area too little equipped would lead to isolated meters unable to communicate.
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by izentrop » 13/02/18, 10:26

Yes for the ENEDIS logic, but does the user have to win? :frown:

Or did you see that linky communicate with each other?
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by Gaston » 13/02/18, 10:48

izentrop wrote:Yes for the ENEDIS logic, but does the user have to win? :frown:
Anyway, the user does not have much to gain with Linky ...

izentrop wrote:Or did you see that linky communicate with each other?

250 page of the Court of Auditors' report wrote :The communicating meters relaying the information transmitted by the other communicating meters, it is necessary that the rate of communicating meters connected to a transformer is sufficient (70% minimum)
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by izentrop » 13/02/18, 12:13

Gaston wrote:
izentrop wrote:Or did you see that linky communicate with each other?

250 page of the Court of Auditors' report wrote :The communicating meters relaying the information transmitted by the other communicating meters, it is necessary that the rate of communicating meters connected to a transformer is sufficient (70% minimum)
Until then, whether at Enedis or CRE http://www.cre.fr/reseaux/reseaux-intel ... ge-evoluesthere is talk of communication with the local hub, not between them.
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by sicetaitsimple » 13/02/18, 14:43

Gaston wrote:Anyway, the user does not have much to gain with Linky ...


I do not really approve of this.

That a lot of people do not earn anything because they are badly informed or do not care because they consume very little electricity, or for any other reason ... certainly.

But already there are electricity supply offers (I'm not going to advertise, there are several) to -30% at night (that already existed with HP // HC rates) but also all day the WE. I think that potentially it can interest a lot of people, especially families with both parents working.

And in my opinion it's just a start, it should be sophisticated in the future.
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