# Action against electric watches and hidden consumption

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## Action against electric watches and hidden consumption

My printer consumes as much when it is OFF (i.e. OFF!) as in standby (i.e. on but not working) according to the PM230

Today a newcomer started a topic on stupidity and ignorance (well maintained by some) some person against vigils: sustainable-consumption/consumption-of-a-cathode-tv-start-standby-off-t5842.html

So to find out where you stand an extremely simple equation can help:

x = uptime
W = on consumption
w = consumption in standby or OFF

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`W*x - w(24-x) = 0`

is :

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`x = 24*w/(w+W)`

x = MINIMAL time to use your machine to use more active than before.

X is more big plus for anything you consume standby or OFF mode!

a) TV: 10W 70W standby and active, x = 3 h!
b) mp3 player: 3W standby / charge and 10W active, x = 5,5h
c) a pc: 40W OFF (so if the measure) and 130W active, x = 5,6h
d) an HP all in one printer: 10W OFF 25W active, x = 6,8h

D'after these example, should therefore print for almost 7h daily continuously for the standby / off consumes LESS that operation ...

So it is absolutely necessary to launch an anti-standby awareness campaign, and "disconnection" of sockets !!

Apparently "politically correct" ecologists like Ademe, Greenpeace, Alliance, Sortir du Nuke are quite incapable of doing this ... they prefer to do sporadic and more or less futile actions and talk about laughable solutions! Ah it's hard to stop licking the "consumption system" ass, eh!

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alew
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I do not find it normal that one consumes it is not running or asleep !!! It would limit any lopping after each use, I do not find his horse there ... If her may allow us to make savings.
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Christophe
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No it's not normal ... I personnaly called ca technological scam ...

hidden consumption and energy vigils at home
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alew
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What would be the easiest would be to have a kind of general stop button has the dimension of the light button, we just have to connect what we want to cut out of the room, the problem is that it ' can not view it takes several breakers ...
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Christophe
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Yes but more simply, there is the possibility of tjrs Strip to integrated switches...
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nonoLeRobot
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I use the radio controlled taken the éconoshop with multiple sockets.

My lamp is connected as above the shot as soon as I turn off, I turn off everything that can be in sleep, I do not forget.

Good paradoxically making it even has to do something like 2W but good considering everything plugged into it (2 * ~ 15W in all), we are winning a lot.
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alew
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Or to avoid multiple sockets that can cause overload can always make an order taken, but think that it consumes energy?
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Christophe
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Not understand your question especially that Nono has given a response element ...
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microDOC
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Christophe wrote:Yes but more simply, there is the possibility of tjrs Strip to integrated switches...

Even simpler and cheaper: you can break your outlets from your electrical board leaving of course that of the refrigerator A + active.

Ok I know takes a picture with breaker but it is increasingly said no?
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greg
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Hello

to avoid overload on the strip, I dedicate him a breaker! as they are designed to collect up to 8 taken (according to the standard course ...) is no problem even if you still have to be careful with the power devices
I find it easier than going to the table
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