Understand the world we live in?

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Re: Understand the world we live in?




by humus » 03/10/21, 17:51

Ahmed wrote:Humus, you write:
... that decision-making power should no longer be vested exclusively in financial profitability, but in the hands of the truly interested parties, that is to say, living beings, the people.

Except that it goes through the State which represents the abstraction "people" and that this body cannot go against what nourishes it, therefore the development of the economy ...

We can dream of a state concerned with the living more than with money.
It is we who choose them, we do not rebel enough : Wink:
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by Ahmed » 03/10/21, 18:45

We choose them ...

Are you sure?
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by humus » 03/10/21, 19:02

Ahmed wrote:
We choose them ...

Are you sure?

Too many sheep and lobotomized but it is we who choose.
Too much unconsciousness.
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by Ahmed » 03/10/21, 19:18

And what could a non-sheep and a non-lobotomized actually choose?
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by humus » 03/10/21, 20:00

Ahmed wrote:And what could a non-sheep and a non-lobotomized actually choose?

We are entitled to politics on the forum ?
: Arrow: So what's best on the political market. : Wink:
Certainly not the top 4 in the polls for the presidential elections yet. From where all these potential voters unconscious of the stakes of our time and even more unconscious of the avenues of resolution, normal. : roll:
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Not a small idea?
: Arrow: We don't revolt enough : Wink:
Although I don't write it at all thinking about its current.

He has integrated a lot of issues, including ecological ones, and should have the courage to stand up to the surrounding neoliberalism.
He is capable of addressing root causes.
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by sen-no-sen » 03/10/21, 20:59

A successful candidate is necessarily someone who is not a danger to the system. JL Melenchon to "left" or Eric Zemmour to "right" would be likely to change something is a big mistake!

Even on a small scale and with "nice" characters, the slightest risk of seeing the emergence of a trans-political current is systematically sanctioned by a ban. Usually it begins with a warning and if it persists with a "business" and more if affinity .
We can cite as such the case of Etienne Chouard, which was quickly "called to order" for having come a little too close to the yellow vest movement. The latter was accused of negationism ... In short, of being a fascist in disguise! : Lol:
Negationism: remarks by Etienne Chouard, "figure" of the yellow vests, are controversial
https://www.europe1.fr/societe/negationnisme-les-propos-detienne-chouard-figure-ecoutee-des-gilets-jaunes-font-polemique-3904206

same for me Juan Branco, the lawyer close to the yellow vests who was accused of rape ...
Accused of rape, lawyer Juan Branco placed in police custody
The young and media lawyer was arrested on Tuesday, he is heard following the accusations of a student who claims to have suffered an unwanted sexual relationship.

https://www.liberation.fr/societe/police-justice/accuse-de-viol-lavocat-juan-branco-place-en-garde-a-vue-20210601_TCU5S55ALZFX5PWPQUGSBC5MKM/
It's an end of service for our two intellectuals ...

And yet it is a question here of a very little radical figure! Their fault was to want to give a political dimension to a protest movement without an ideological basis.
Notice to amateurs!
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Re: Understand the world we live in?




by Ahmed » 03/10/21, 21:31

The illusion of radicality comes only from a purely formal discursive bidding ...

A little anecdote, by the way: JL Mélenchon wanted to include in its program for the previous presidential election the prospect of space conquests : roll: , which his advisers dissuaded him from ...
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by Christophe » 03/10/21, 22:50

Ahmed wrote:A little anecdote, by the way: JL Mélenchon wanted to include in its program for the previous presidential election the prospect of space conquests : roll: , which his advisers dissuaded him from ...


Not true ... I've heard about it and I'm not a rebellious advisor ... : Cheesy:
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by humus » 04/10/21, 07:50

sen-no-sen wrote:A successful candidate is necessarily someone who is not a danger to the system. JL Melenchon to "left" or Eric Zemmour to "right" would be likely to change something is a big mistake!

Even on a small scale and with "nice" characters, the slightest risk of seeing the emergence of a trans-political current is systematically sanctioned by a ban. Usually it begins with a warning and if it persists with a "business" and more if affinity .
We can cite as such the case of Etienne Chouard, which was quickly "called to order" for having come a little too close to the yellow vest movement. The latter was accused of negationism ... In short, of being a fascist in disguise! : Lol:
Negationism: remarks by Etienne Chouard, "figure" of the yellow vests, are controversial
https://www.europe1.fr/societe/negationnisme-les-propos-detienne-chouard-figure-ecoutee-des-gilets-jaunes-font-polemique-3904206

same for me Juan Branco, the lawyer close to the yellow vests who was accused of rape ...
Accused of rape, lawyer Juan Branco placed in police custody
The young and media lawyer was arrested on Tuesday, he is heard following the accusations of a student who claims to have suffered an unwanted sexual relationship.

https://www.liberation.fr/societe/police-justice/accuse-de-viol-lavocat-juan-branco-place-en-garde-a-vue-20210601_TCU5S55ALZFX5PWPQUGSBC5MKM/
It's an end of service for our two intellectuals ...

And yet it is a question here of a very little radical figure! Their fault was to want to give a political dimension to a protest movement without an ideological basis.
Notice to amateurs!

All this is true and does not take away, in my opinion, that JLM is the best candidate defending the life.
With him the RIC is possible.
If he comes to power, which I doubt, given the mass wanting to vote light years away, if he does not manage to change anything, “democratic” politics will definitely be over. It will hardly be resolved later in the streets and in the chaos and blood.
This is not a threat, it is a logical consequence of free capitalism faced with the scarcity of resources and the RCA. He will be unable to respond favorably.
Nature will solve any problem in its own way, without feeling: action-reaction, it will no longer be able to cushion anything.
So today when we are aware of the stakes, being choosy about JLM, which like anyone is open to criticism, seems to me a luxury.
With friends like you, you don't need an enemy. : Wink:
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Re: Understand the world we live in?




by ABC2019 » 04/10/21, 08:00

humus wrote:We can dream of a state concerned with the living more than with money.


We should already dream of an indicator allowing an objective comparison of the two. Precisely the advantage of money is that it offers a possibility of comparison between very different things, but if there is more money, the objective comparison is much more complicated. Not to mention that the interest of a living is not the same as that of another living, all farm animals will tell you.

For the covid, in any case, obviously the state was more concerned with the living than with the money.
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