Energy-consuming house: 65m2 to heat !!

[Woodcutter]

[...]
question if I do myself I recover too?

With the tax credit, it will not cost you much more to have it done by a pro, than to do it yourself (cost material, cost of transport bags, etc ...)

[helium]

I advance on the wood siding ... I can have the wood
but lack of people for the pose ...
since the specialists of the insulation by the outside
only know the coating !!
(even those with names that feel convinced green)
I will call on carpenters

I'm trying to see for a dual stream VMC that could
improve things ... same problem as for cladding
specialists tell me it's useless for 65m2 ... ??!
(and an 1er quote VMC2F to 1800 €)
I remain convinced that well isolated my house can feed
thermal flows from washing machine and other sources
to be continued

[Woodcutter]

I advance on the wood siding ... I can have the wood
but lack of people for the pose ...
since the specialists of the insulation by the outside
only know the coating !!
(even those with names that feel convinced green)

Pff ... it's really crazy!
When I think that we are "fighting" to make sure that people put more siding, and that we have the opposite problem ...

I'm trying to see for a dual stream VMC that could
improve things ... same problem as for cladding
specialists tell me it's useless for 65m2 ... ??!
(and an 1er quote VMC2F to 1800 €)
[...]

Huh? Does not understand what you are told ...

For the quote, it's not excessive, I saw a lot more ...
A HELIOS KWL 250 for example, it is worth more than 2000 € of material alone (except poses and accessories).

[Jamo]

I advance on the wood siding ... I can have the wood
but lack of people for the pose ...
since the specialists of the insulation by the outside
only know the coating !!
(even those with names that feel convinced green)
I will call on carpenters

Hello
I have been looking at the Forum (lazy to register ) in any case super.
if you go on what thickness of frame and how do you isolate?
cheaper wouate insufflée (ask Cricri ) but at a density of 55 ~ 60 kg / m3, as there is a PP that I hope HPV
a small incision and you're done. effective Tuesday.
for the VMC, I will leave on a hydro (it's a point of view) view the volume.
Have a nice day & kénavo.

[helium]

you go on what thickness of frame and how do you isolate?
cheaper wouate insufflée (ask Cricri ) but at a density of 55 ~ 60 kg / m3, as there is a PP that I hope HPV
a small incision and you're done. effective Tuesday.
for the VMC, I will leave on a hydro (it's a point of view) view the volume.
Have a nice day & kénavo.

I know less than you, what is a VMC hydro?
so I let myself be guided ... by Woodcutter for example I will learn about HELIOS KWL 250 ...

for the cladding of the "Maibec" 19X127mm over 5m long
+ 120mm spacer ("ladders") to store the wadding
for insulation I was rather for hemp block
thinking that the wadding could settle but in high density
it does not move ... apparently ... so wadding
(and wadding under the roof also hop under the floor)

I was also advised thermoflex (?) Ep 60mm dim 57X122
+ multiplex-top 18mm dim 75X250
I did not understand...

[Jamo]

Hello
Thermoflex (wood fiber if my memories are good) but 6 cm
not enough . apparently a frame of 12.5 why not 145 mm
(you tell me it's not the same price but not much)
with the right spacers, cellulose. a rain film hpv cleats of wind and cladding. if not sit do not want siding,
wood fiber panel diffutherm (Pavatex) screwed on wood + coated plaster but there explodes the budget.
good luck

[helium]

Thermoflex (wood fiber if my memories are good) but 6 cm not enough. apparently a frame of 12.5 why not 145 mm
(...) otherwise do not want siding,
wood fiber panel diffutherm (Pavatex) screwed on wood + coated plaster but there explodes the budget.
good luck

thank you for the details
the coating more expensive than the cladding?
I order my wood is decided !!

[Chartrousin]

for the VMC, I will leave on a hydro (it's a point of view) view the volume.

The VMC hygro, or simple humidity-controlled flow, is the minimum anyway if you isolate your home well. But with quotes from vmc2f to 1800 €, enjoy! As Bucheron says, just the hardware, it is often more expensive than that (order of magnitude included tax: 3 4000 € very often, another order of magnitude: material alone, known brand = ~ 1800 public price for the kit basic).

More info on ventilation:
http://www.ademe.fr/particuliers/fiches ... n/rub4.htm

On the other hand verifies the material that is proposed to you, in particular the conso of the fans, which in vmc2f can clearly decrease the interest of the system (it is better to put 300 € more and to have a vmc which will consume 100 € of electricity of less /year...). Still, the vmc 2f is the only way to really control the arrival and extraction of air, and therefore the losses that go with it. Do not neglect it, because if you isolate very well, the losses by ventilation can become preponderant!

[helium]

apparently the VMC2F will be from Atlantic ...
I do not know more for now
he also proposes me to couple it to a PAC air atlantic air / fujitsu

[Chartrousin]

VMC2F coupled with the cap, it can be interesting in your case, if you isolate strongly, it can do the majority of your heating (in any case it is more interesting than a PAC air independent, but the power is limited, hence the need for very good insulation).

Personally, I agree with the previous opinions and I will advise you to put the package on the insulation, and to be satisfied with a pac associated with the vmc2f and / or wood stove for heating.