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by Christine » 11/06/09, 15:17

Christophe wrote: it is SEL, Local Exchange Service.


Yes, probably SELs Their status is that of association, I believe.

But the idea of ​​a village launched here would go even further if I understood correctly, with the sharing of certain goods - or the making available for the commons of goods owned by an association for example.
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by the middle » 11/06/09, 15:23

And also houses that cost nothing in energy :D
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by Christophe » 11/06/09, 16:02

Some ideas defended by this association http://www.volemcasa.com/ that I just discovered via the association section directory
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by Did67 » 11/06/09, 17:42

1) I believe that the SEL are not yet "taxed", as long as it remains mutual aid and there is no monetization. But I think the tax authorities are starting to take an interest in it. I would remind you that in France, associations under the 1901 law which carry out "economic" activities in competition with companies are taxed.

2) Indeed, such a project, according to my reflections, would go much further: it is about finding legal forms allowing to manage capital and investments, while preserving the "stake" of each one. It is also a question of adopting operating rules avoiding conflicts ... At least that's how I see it ... Perhaps generous donors see it differently and are they ready to invest to "burn" their capital as long as it is "brilliant" ???

A SEL only manages "operation", not investment! And if it is high quality real estate (architectural, ecological, passive, landscaped, etc.) it may not be cheap!
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by Christophe » 11/06/09, 18:37

Did67 wrote:1) I believe that the SEL are not yet "taxed", as long as it remains mutual aid and there is no monetization. But I think the tax authorities are starting to take an interest in it. I would remind you that in France, associations under the 1901 law which carry out "economic" activities in competition with companies are taxed.


Ok well this is the death of SEL then ... if it is to reinvent trade and taxes, it no longer has any reason to be!

Did67 wrote:2) Indeed, such a project, according to my reflections, would go much further: it is about finding legal forms allowing to manage capital and investments, while preserving the "stake" of each one. It is also a question of adopting operating rules avoiding conflicts ... At least that's how I see it ... Perhaps generous donors see it differently and are they ready to invest to "burn" their capital as long as it is "brilliant" ???


A scop can be ??
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by elephant » 11/06/09, 19:55

It may be a little too early to settle the problem of the legal form, which is a matter for specialists, especially since in this case the capital is important: several houses, several jobs.
From what I learned recently, the law of 1901 is not the foot : Cheesy: , nothing prevents to use the statute of ASBL or cooperative society. But, I repeat, it's a matter of pros; and no need to speculate until we have defined what we want to do .....

The range of solutions is wide, nothing prevents mixed solutions: an SA for heritage, an ASBL for the mutual aid structure, etc.

You might as well resign yourself: there is a lot of work to do, I think that currently, it is the debate that is interesting: a meeting must be planned.
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by Rabelaisian » 20/06/09, 12:51

Aged 65, I live in the center of 93 Rosny-sous-Bois and I am not very attracted by the idea of ​​going into exile in so-called quiet corners, especially since I don't have a car and I don't know how to drive. Having said that:
1 - links, which I started to make, on the elderly and other seniors http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/listas ... 233691404/
2 - links on SELs http://groups.google.fr/group/ouah-ouah ... 556b14c525
3 - links on architecture + town and country planning http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/listas ... 232658531/
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