Boric acid - fuel saving insecticide

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Boric acid - fuel saving insecticide




by Christophe » 20/08/07, 10:39

Boric acid (H3BO3) is rather known as a fairly common insecticide. Surprisingly, scientists from the US Department of Energy's Argonne National Laboratory have found a way to use it to limit friction in the engines and thus reduce fuel consumption. The key to making this product a "super-lubricant" is to reduce its size to the nanoscale.


Recently, Ali Erdemir realized that by adding these nanoparticles no longer to engine oil but to the fuel itself, it was again possible to reduce its friction.


What followed

The secret of MPG Caps? :D
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by Colmant » 20/08/07, 12:56

Hello
do we know what Total or the other oil companies put in their "plus" type diesel?
and they sell more expensive obviously
I use them with my eyes closed, on their good faith and I have never measured anything.
Am i wrong

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by abyssin3 » 20/08/07, 13:26

Indeed, it seems to make "sheets" like for graphite, but on a molecular scale.
Considering that MPG caps are made up of "plants", I wouldn't be surprised if a certain plant produced a lot of boric acid. Which one and why, I don't know, but that would be cheaper to mine than to go for minerals rich in boron.
According to the "cuvées" of this plant, one could also imagine that the quantity of boric acid is better or worse. This would explain the random results depending on the arrival of pellets.
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by Christophe » 20/08/07, 15:55

Bof Abyssin ... the test of combustion in the open air of a caps + gasoline mixture made by Maloche revealed a smell of burnt plastic ... I doubt that such a smell comes from "plants" but hey you never know ... what is the smell of burning a "plastic" bag made from vegetable starch?
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by elephant » 20/08/07, 17:15

boron is indeed an interesting material:

it is extremely resistant and very light: more than carbon fiber (boron composite)
boron nitride harder than diamond

I remember seeing boric acid used to slide the tiles on dance parties

I invite you to read boron and boric acid on wikipedia
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by Christophe » 20/08/07, 17:58

Take the milky white oil we talked about on the forum a few months ago was not boron-based precisely?

Edit: bingo and it was a year ago already ...

https://www.econologie.com/forums/huile-0w40 ... t2153.html
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by abyssin3 » 14/09/07, 15:06

Found on mpgresearch(in English) :
Some try to add boric acid (borate or boron salt) in engine oil or better, in water injected in vapor as so do here.
I have not yet focused too much on the results (miles per gallon, the conversion is not simple), but for those who are interested, I let you peel these few pages.
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by Other » 14/09/07, 15:27

Hello

He should look into ruhbarbe juice or oxalic acid
instead of putting vinegar in the water. Also there is a little something, although I know nothing in chemistry, but I try with all the risk that this entails (Corrosion crushing of the rod it takes almost 800 km to replace a fouled rod under heavy load .. )

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by abyssin3 » 14/09/07, 15:37

But vinegar is rather acetic acid (acid also but not the same). What's more, vinegar in engine oil probably wouldn't have a fantastic effect. : Shock:
It was this point that surprised me.
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by Other » 14/09/07, 16:07

Hello
Christophe wrote:Take the milky white oil we talked about on the forum a few months ago was not boron-based precisely?

Edit: bingo and it was a year ago already ...

https://www.econologie.com/forums/huile-0w40 ... t2153.html


You forget the cutting oil that Zac tested in the pant water
Solube oil which becomes like milk ..

But vinegar is rather acetic acid (acid also but not the same). What's more, vinegar in engine oil probably wouldn't have a fantastic effect.
It was this point that surprised me.

I forgot to specify that the acid or the vinegar is in the water of the panton reactor (not in the engine oil) in very small quantity
(the outlet temperature of the reactor increases relative to distilled water)
I am not convinced that we must clean the bubblers, it works better in their belly.

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