Opinion and test Hydrogen HHO kit feedback experience?

[izentrop]

I could not compare the two systems, but the water doping that I mounted on my car is stunning in every way.

If I understood the principle correctly: Water heated by the exhaust is vaporized and this vapor is injected into the intake.
We can deduce that this lowers the combustion temperature. If a real advantage is brought on consumption, there is a good chance that it corrects a bad setting, can be due to the age of the engine and wear.
Just like the other so-called "fuel-saving" systems, I will believe it the day or a proof will be made on a double-blind measuring bench.

[GuyGadebois]

I could not compare the two systems, but the water doping that I mounted on my car is stunning in every way.

If I understood the principle correctly: Water heated by the exhaust is vaporized and this vapor is injected into the intake.
We can deduce that this lowers the combustion temperature. If a real advantage is brought on consumption, there is a good chance that it corrects a bad setting, can be due to the age of the engine and wear.
Just like the other so-called "fuel-saving" systems, I will believe it the day or a proof will be made on a double-blind measuring bench.

No need for a double blind. My vision of the flow meter is enough. Two years without the system and a few months with changed my consumption, my smoke (there is none) and the response of the engine to the accelerator pedal. My son, who only uses my vehicle from time to time, immediately noticed and told me about it.
Ps: My engine has 50000 km and wear issue, I have never done a city, or very very little.

[Christophe]

If I understood the principle correctly: Water heated by the exhaust is vaporized and this vapor is injected into the intake.
We can deduce that this lowers the combustion temperature. If a real advantage is brought on consumption, there is a good chance that it corrects a bad setting, can be due to the age of the engine and wear.

a) That water corrects a bad setting ... This is magic, strange for a skeptical scientist like you to write this

And if the wear is corrected or at least reduced (assumption valid in my opinion, see links below): it is easy to understand that the injection of water cannot economically interest motorists ... motor sellers!

b) There are many other effects than the "thermal loop" ... and we do not inject water vapor (in common sense, ie> 100 ° C) but a mist (+ or - warmed) ...

As accustomed to this forum, I thought you had been more diligent than that on the injection of water ...

c) Here, just for you, here are (old) pages to catch you:

https://www.econologie.com/synthese-the ... r-pantone/

https://www.econologie.com/injection-ea ... au-moteur/


ps: this discussion is moving further and further away from HHO ...

[Christophe]

Ps: My engine has 50000 km and wear issue, I have never done a city, or very very little.

Suffice to say that it comes out of running!

How many km have you done with the water injection?

[GuyGadebois]

Ps: My engine has 50000 km and wear issue, I have never done a city, or very very little.

Suffice to say that it comes out of running!

How many km have you done with the water injection?

About 5000.

[GuyGadebois]

ps: this discussion is moving further and further away from HHO ...

Well, with good reason since: "ça martch'pas" (Garcimorre).

[izentrop]

No need for a double blind. My vision of the flow meter is enough.

The flow meter of a Dacia measures the air flow in fact, not really the consumption ... and as you add a little vaporized water to it ... It is perhaps better to make the measurement from full to full, this would be safer

[Christophe]

No need for a double blind. My vision of the flow meter is enough.

The flow meter of a Dacia measures the air flow in fact, not really the consumption ... and as you add a little vaporized water to it ... It is perhaps better to make the measurement from full to full, this would be safer

A diesel operates in excess of air and this almost permanently, I do not understand how the air flow could give an indication of consumption ??? On a petrol it is already more plausible ... although with the new combustion modes, not sure that it is linear ... it is even sure that not!

We can run a vacuum diesel by swallowing a maximum of air without it consuming anything other than the power corresponding to its internal friction ... measuring the air flow and deducing consumption is nonsense on a diesel cycle!

In the same genre, the joke of the pollution control with empty diesel particles from our technical controls is well known to those who know a little about the functioning of a diesel ... this test only allows to detect large combustion faults or mechanical. Like an HS injector or a messy segmentation ... in no case can it measure pollution on the road.

[gildas]

ps: this discussion is moving further and further away from HHO ...

Well, with good reason since: "ça martch'pas" (Garcimorre).

We can't say that it doesn't work (see p.14), HHO kits are simply more energy-consuming than Pantone kits ...

[GuyGadebois]

ps: this discussion is moving further and further away from HHO ...

Well, with good reason since: "ça martch'pas" (Garcimorre).

We can't say that it doesn't work (see p.14), HHO kits are simply more energy-consuming than Pantone kits ...

Of course, 54% savings, it's really believable! All in an infomercial ...