Molecular dissociation of water by electric field

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by renaud67 » 20/10/08, 16:16

Remundo wrote:- 666.66 Liter of O2, i.e. 0.666 m3

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by Remundo » 20/10/08, 16:48

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by Capt_Maloche » 20/10/08, 21:37

What do you want, it's ferruginous water!

I correct my exo : Cry: hard to do that while being on the phone and writing a report 8)

I had seen that it didn't fit : Cheesy:

but explain to me why 55,55 mol of H2O gives what you put below, AH yes, the Avogadro constant, is that it?
Rémundo wrote:55.55 moles of H2O (1kg of water) gives 55,55 mol of H2 and 27,77 moles of O2
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For the rest, 1 mole of gas makes approximately a volume of 24L under ambient conditions,
Your liter of water will therefore give:
- 55.55x24 = 1333,3 Liter, i.e. 1,3 m3 of H2
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- 666.66 Liter of O2, i.e. 0.666 m3
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by Capt_Maloche » 20/10/08, 22:06

THEN FOR THE CONDO:

I put it off until later :D :D I have the kids' homework

Remundo wrote:The capacity of a flat capacitor
C = epsilon S / e

with epsilon: electrical permittivity of the insulation between the plates (of memory for the water, it is 80 x epsilon0 (of the vacuum))

S plate surface
e distant between the plates

Stored energy: 1 / 2 C U²
with U in volt potential difference between 2 plates.

Limitation: must not exceed the breakdown voltage, or ionization of the dielectric. For water, I have no data in mind, but it must be: keyword "electric field of ionization"
The voltage = field x distance (here e)

Another thing: you really need a very pure water: otherwise, it will not be an insulator, but an electrolyte that will discharge the condo by eating energy by Joule effect.

Here are some food for thought, you can post them on the forum concerned, no problem.

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For my personal culture
I could see energy storage with "pure water capacitors" at a few volts why not 12V, or about twenty "bins"

what will interest me would be to know
- with 12V, what distance between plates allows me the best storage
- and as a deduction, how much energy I could store per "liter" of water / surface
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by coucou789456 » 21/10/08, 09:20

Hello Cap and all the econologists

how are the gausses, did they do their duty correctly?

with the Gauss, on that you need a good dose of magnetism, especially in our time, to be understood and obeyed.

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by Capt_Maloche » 21/10/08, 10:02

<span style="font-weight: normal">young audiences</span> coucou :D

It's funny what you say, my son is in 5th Gauss
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by coucou789456 » 21/10/08, 10:40

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by jonule » 21/10/08, 14:34

So, is it progressing, practically?
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by coucou789456 » 21/10/08, 14:42

Hello again

yes it is progressing, but not always in the way we would like.

I spent part of the morning reading posts in another forum to which I am registered ....
and ho surprise, I found a post there which simply relates thesuccessful meyer experience !!!!! .... unfortunately passed over in silence because this post was drowned among others however in a similar subject.
a little what happens here unfortunately, when some post and the participants continue their dialogue ignoring us, it has happened to me very often, and not only to me ...
jonule to quote you, seen in the subject concerning robiplan, you ask 1 or 2 questions and no one has deigned to answer ... as if we did not exist !!! (example: https://www.econologie.com/forums/post73133.html#73133 )

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by Remundo » 21/10/08, 15:10

Hi Captain ',

Here is the permittivity of air or vacuum (almost identical)
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http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permittivit%C3%A9
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