electrolysis improved

[nlc]

Thumbtack, 3 pages to read since my last visit! Curious I had not received a notification

Well, I see that new motivated people have taken over, that's niquel ca!
Good luck to all !!

I would have to get back on my circular engine, but now that I ride an electric bike and that I don't take the car anymore, I'm less motivated ...

[elephant]

Oh captain, my captain,

I saw the video again, you're right, the bubbles are spinning.

given the enormity of the bubbles, it would not do the 220V AC test, chance? be careful if you try, we wouldn't want to lose you so soon, you start to get more and more interesting. It is not normal that it has so many bubbles so quickly with a few amperes in 12 volts DC. Now, it is not at Barlow's wheel that it reminds me but at the 220 V clock motors (we almost no longer)

I do not think that it is "the" solution, but the effect is funny and deserves to be understood, maybe the fact that the field is annular?

mea culpa (= erratum in good Latin) I spoke about Nipkow's disc, which is completely false, in fact it is Barlow's wheel that I should have spoken 2 or 3 pages ago

(Nipkow's disc, it is a hole disc which made it possible to make the very first experiments of television

[Capt_Maloche]

CARPE DIEM Eleph,

I am very moved of your interest in me.
Don't worry about Barlow's record, I realized that when all my research brought me back to mechanical television!

As soon as I find a domed bottom to place behind the HP magnet, I test the flow.

This weekend I mount the TP electrolysis + MHD of the diagram on the previous page, 4 shots of chainsaw + 4 rectangular magnets, hopefully, videos and results online from Monday

You know what? this forum is an extraordinarily effective way of bringing together skills as diverse as complementary, and a researcher friend whom I had on the phone earlier (he will recognize himself when he read these lines), told me that with a little tenacity we were certainly more efficient than all those labs that hesitate to communicate their results.

It is a real pleasure and in addition, I take my foot !!

[gegyx]

Bonsoir.
Electrolysis with the speaker magnet of Benoît was an application of MHD.
I did not understand the movement of water, compared to the 3 finger rule, Krissg29 gave a clear answer.
The movement of the water is tangential to the perimeter of the magnet.
Direct current is required. By reversing the poles, the movement is reversed.
See the interventions of January 8, 2006 on the MHD page: https://www.econologie.com/forums/m-h-d-magn ... 23-30.html

[tome]

Hi there, you were looking (some posts before) for a way to transfer the bubbles between the electrodes?
What do you think of the system of a certain Archie Blue?
His thing looks like a bubbler with discs pierced as electrodes

http://quanthomme.free.fr/energielibre/ ... urAEC1.htm

[Capt_Maloche]

Yes, tome we are still looking, and are doing some tests, I know the Archi system and many others, proceed in order , But if you propose to realize this scheme, it's okay, we have to share the task.

gegyx, clear for an insider; I read the "description of the phenomenon" of kriss, but it does not explain it;

I will therefore try to explain it clearly:

If in a fluid one creates a magnetic field B, and an electric current I, which is perpendicular to it, then the fluid undergoes a LAPLACE FORCE of intensity IB and whose direction is given by the RULE of the 3 FINGERS:



where F = BIL
F in Newton
B is the magnetic field perpendicular to the electric field
I (Amps)
L is the distance between the two electrodes

In the case of our shielded HP magnet:


The field lines (in red) are directed by the plates and the core (in blue)
We can see (and we know) that the lines of the magic field form an arc of a circle; the current I, through the conductive bath, crosses straight (the current goes to the shortest) these field lines not quite perpendicularly generating the force F of the law stated above.

The magnet being annular, it is a rotational movement which is observed. cqfd.

It is not so easy to interpret.

[elephant]

Captain,

I didn't quite understand your "As soon as I find a domed bottom to place behind the HP magnet, I test the flow."

as for the collaboration between labs, we are not going to go to chomnu if the competition finds before us!

in your F = BI, the field is expressed in which units?

[Misterloxo]

In my opinion these are the SI units:

F: Newton
B: Tesla
I: Ampere
L: meter


And moreover, it is rather a vector product:

[Capt_Maloche]

Well, after the theory, put into practice:

I tinkered a metal crown (alu) around the magnet of a small Tweeter (I had only that in hand) so as to reproduce perfectly the scheme of my previous message

QED

see the video here belowhttp: //www.dailymotion.com/econo ... amiqu_tech

Water + a little hydrochloric acid continuously feeding 14V under 1.45A

For the units, it is the SI system, I have to check if B is in Tesla or Gauss

Elephant,

I didn't quite understand your "As soon as I find a domed bottom to place behind the HP magnet, I test the flow."

Yes actually i can't test the flow rate on a magnet from HP

I try to do it this WE on 2 stainless steel plates with and without MHD

nlc, cycling is good, but don't give up, we will need you

Hi everybody

[elephant]

when I compare to what I get with 2 vertical plates (much larger than yours) under 13V 3 to 5 amps, I find the result rather encouraging; you get big bubbles right away. well done.

that said, I decided to quickly make a "bad" electrolyser of 30 to 40 l / hour to quickly test the influence of the hydrogen injection on my 2 cars, while continuing to simultaneously develop the electrolyser ( the road tests take time, so I might as well start them right away), I will do before a new test with the horizontal electrodes, and possibly opposite another trellis electrode

with HCl, do you have no chlorine release?