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by RealWheel » 05/07/09, 16:34

former oceanic wrote:Answer D: "Work more to earn less but continue to consume more by making more credits"


Yes, of course, work harder to earn less, but without demining the gross national product, without diminishing the damage to the environment. In a nutshell, the pollution produced is proportional to GDP. If we double production, we also double the production of greenhouse gases, all things being equal (no better technologies that consume less energy).

If there is not enough work for all in France, it is because of the development of the machinery and the computer on the one hand, of the outsourcing in countries with low cost of manpower on the other hand. The energy we consume in large quantities, allows us to have 100 mechanical slaves.

What is the use of polluting the planet if we are to work as much as in the nineteenth century? Obviously, these 19 mechanical slaves have alleviated the hardness of our daily lives.

Unfortunately, instead of being content with this significant gain, we consume in addition products with little interest in our daily lives but which endanger the planet (additional production of greenhouse gases). This drift from our consumer society is linked to commercialism and the desire of some to grab the wealth of the greatest number. So you are selling useless products that are exchanged against euros that you have earned hard.

Without a major discovery in the coming 10 years, our society will go straight into the wall.

It is therefore necessary to find a way to use additional energy free of pollution or in other words learn to build machines with a very high coefficient of performance. Heat pumps improved in some way.

Stay optimistic, it's in the realm of possibility and the technology could quickly reach the market!
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by Philippe Schutt » 05/07/09, 16:57

RealWheel wrote:Unfortunately, instead of being content with this significant gain, we consume in addition products with little interest in our daily lives but which endanger the planet (additional production of greenhouse gases). This drift from our consumer society is linked to commercialism and the desire of some to grab the wealth of the greatest number. So you are selling useless products that are exchanged against euros that you have earned hard.

Ah, the dirty salesmen and the poor little buyers. : Twisted:

The greed of the consumer is not less than that of the sellers. Moreover, these are only for themselves to be bigger consumers! When I see all that throws in the neighboring HLM, I tell myself that it is not necessarily the rich who pollute the most.
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by RealWheel » 05/07/09, 17:28

Philippe Schutt wrote:Ah, the dirty salesmen and the poor little buyers. : Twisted:

The greed of the consumer is not less than that of the sellers. Moreover, these are only for themselves to be bigger consumers! When I see all that throws in the neighboring HLM, I tell myself that it is not necessarily the rich who pollute the most.


I also noticed that. Note however that the discarded products are of poor quality: composite materials for furniture for example.

If we build solid wood furniture, we would avoid the initial pollution by the chemicals, then the production of greenhouse gases and harmful gases during the combustion in the incineration plants (big quantities of dioxins that pollute the fields and the milk of cows or sheep).

Also, for a long time, the carbon that nature has extracted from the ambient air thanks to the extraordinary process of photosynthesis will be stored for a long time (an old massive cabinet is transmitted from generation to generation).

As for clothes, there is a lot to say about the quality of these rags that invade our department stores. Nothing to do with the fabrics manufactured by the Boussac company in the 60s in its French factories. Cotton fabrics can undoubtedly be broken down by nature, but synthetic clothing cannot.

Does the consumer have a real choice?

(edited by ex-océano on 05/07/09 17:37 - BBCode "quote" correction)
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by Philippe Schutt » 05/07/09, 17:52

This is the requirement of ever cheaper consumer who opened the boulevard for the Chinese junk.
Polls are one thing, and reality is another.
It's enough for me to see how people throw their papers or cigarette butts out the window of the car, to know that humanity is massively composed of pigs who will always want more, whatever the consequences and the nature is the younger than their worries
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Re: THE ECONOMIC CRISIS OR THE ENVIRONMENT




by gaston13 » 05/07/09, 18:25

RealWheel wrote:We must begin by changing the minds of bankers and traders.


or manage to get rid of these parasites
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