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by Paul72 » 16/06/20, 22:03

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... al-heating

If other models confirmed this, it would not be good news (one more). it promises for the next IPCC report :?
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by ABC2019 » 17/06/20, 10:51

Paul72 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jun/13/climate-worst-case-scenarios-clouds-scientists-global-heating

If other models confirmed this, it would not be good news (one more). it promises for the next IPCC report :?


yes the gap between models and observations is likely to be even worse ...


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by Paul72 » 19/06/20, 11:58

It is not really a surprise, the risks of forest fires will continue to increase on average in France, particularly in the Mediterranean area, in the decades to come.

http://www.meteofrance.fr/actualites/83 ... climatique
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by ABC2019 » 19/06/20, 12:54

Paul72 wrote:It is not really a surprise, the risks of forest fires will continue to increase on average in France, particularly in the Mediterranean area, in the decades to come.

http://www.meteofrance.fr/actualites/83 ... climatique


if you only consider one parameter, the temperature, the risk may increase.

But in reality, there are a lot of things that can change, preventive measures, the effectiveness with which we fight them, etc., suddenly the reality is completely different

https://www.academie-agriculture.fr/pub ... e-foret-en

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This is the constant problem with climate projections, looking at the influence of T "on everything else constant", when this is not the case at all, but the other factors are mostly unknown. But on the whole, humanity is doing what it has always done, which is to adapt to changes: this is what allowed it to survive for hundreds of thousands of years.
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by GuyGadebois » 19/06/20, 13:00

ABC2019 wrote: But on the whole, humanity is doing what it has always done, i.e. adapting to change: this is what has enabled it to survive hundreds of thousands of years.

Hundreds of thousands of years that are only a microscopic instant on the time scale. And in this ridiculous period of time, it has succeeded in causing destruction, massive extinctions, global warming, all-out pollution and mortgaged its survival like never before (not to mention wars, crusades, genocides, massacres and other mockery). Talk about a performance! Never has a living species shown so much intelligence and so much bullshit since the dawn of time.
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by ABC2019 » 19/06/20, 13:14

GuyGadebois wrote:
ABC2019 wrote: But on the whole, humanity is doing what it has always done, i.e. adapting to change: this is what has enabled it to survive hundreds of thousands of years.

Hundreds of thousands of years that are only a microscopic instant on the time scale. And in this ridiculous period of time, it has succeeded in causing destruction, massive extinctions, global warming, all-out pollution and mortgaged its survival like never before (not to mention wars, crusades, genocides, massacres and other mockery). Talk about a performance! Never has a living species shown so much intelligence and so much bullshit since the dawn of time.

you know nature can do much worse, the appearance of cyanobacteria (which are neither know nor intelligent but just evolved genetically to make photosynthesis) caused the accumulation of oxygen in the atmosphere which caused the extinction from a large number of organisms for which it was toxic.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grande_Oxydation

and I'm not talking about the disasters caused by meteorites and supervolcanoes.

Now moral judgment is only useful if it guides your action, so if you think humanity is cancer, what do you deduce from it? that it should be got rid of? apparently the fact that you continue to post shows that there is at least one that you think should escape this condemnation! : Mrgreen:
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by GuyGadebois » 19/06/20, 13:20

(That's all he found ... cyanobacteria 2.4 billion years ago, meteorites and volcanoes ... : roll: )
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by ABC2019 » 19/06/20, 13:36

GuyGadebois wrote:(That's all he found ... cyanobacteria 2.4 billion years ago, meteorites and volcanoes ... : roll: )

you dodge the question: if you realize that man is a kind of cancer, what do you suggest? to delete it? to genetically transform it? how and in what?
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by ENERC » 19/06/20, 19:30

Record heat wave in Siberia - https://www.enviro2b.com/2020/06/19/vag ... n-siberie/

Russian cities in the Arctic Circle have recorded extraordinary temperatures. At Nizhnyaya Pesha, the thermometer displayed 30 ° C on June 9. As for Khatanga, which generally has daytime temperatures of around 0 ° C at this time of year, it was 25 ° C on May 22. The previous record was 12 ° C.


In May, surface temperatures in parts of Siberia were up to 10 ° C above normal, according to the European Copernicus Service on Climate Change (C3S). Martin Stendel of the Danish Meteorological Institute said that the abnormal temperatures observed in northwestern Siberia in May would likely only occur once every 100 years without human-caused global warming.


The melting of permafrost was found to be partly responsible for the oil spill in Siberia in June 2020. This oil spill led to Putin declaring a state of emergency.

Forest fires ravaged hundreds of thousands of hectares of Siberian forests. Farmers often light fires in the spring to clear vegetation, and a combination of high temperatures and strong winds has made some fires out of control.

Siberian butterfly swarms, the larvae of which eat on conifers, have grown rapidly due to rising temperatures. "In my long career, I have never seen such huge and rapidly developing butterflies," butterfly specialist Vladimir Soldatov told AFP.

He warned of the "tragic consequences" for forests, the larvae stripping the trees of their needles and making them more susceptible to fire.


The ground that breaks its face with the ice melting underneath, the forest that burns and the butterflies that will eat everything. "The situation is under control in Siberia" : Mrgreen:
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by Paul72 » 19/06/20, 20:30

ABC2019 wrote:
Paul72 wrote:It is not really a surprise, the risks of forest fires will continue to increase on average in France, particularly in the Mediterranean area, in the decades to come.

http://www.meteofrance.fr/actualites/83 ... climatique


if you only consider one parameter, the temperature, the risk may increase.

But in reality, there are a lot of things that can change, preventive measures, the effectiveness with which we fight them, etc., suddenly the reality is completely different

https://www.academie-agriculture.fr/pub ... e-foret-en

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This is the constant problem with climate projections, looking at the influence of T "on everything else constant", when this is not the case at all, but the other factors are mostly unknown. But on the whole, humanity is doing what it has always done, which is to adapt to changes: this is what allowed it to survive for hundreds of thousands of years.



You're right, when we no longer have the means of prevention today it will be even worse. But we will adapt. We will survive. At least a few.
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