Protect the mountain! Skiing and global warming?

[ABC2019]

Why should we worry about a danger that no longer exists, when the disappearance of glaciers now threatens water resources?

no of course there is no need to worry about the advance of the glaciers and fortunately!

it just proves that humans just don't like when nature changes, whether it's their fault or not, because it upsets their little habits - but have always had to face its whims, and have done as they have could.

[Ahmed]

It is not a question of "little habits", or else we must understand by this adaptations to given situations (on the scale of the human lifetime) which are called into question by a change which invalidates the provisions. earlier. I think that's what you mean?

[ABC2019]

It is not a question of "little habits", or else we must understand by this adaptations to given situations (on the scale of the human lifetime) which are called into question by a change which invalidates the provisions. earlier. I think that's what you mean?

yes we call it what we want, what I mean is that the changes that upset the life of a generation do not date today, as a certain discourse tends to make us believe. It always existed, and we survived it (with much less means than now).

But the criteria as usual are very elastic. We are alarmed at the possibility of refugees from the Maldives, totally imaginary given that the surface of the atolls does not decrease, that their population increases, and that in addition their main economy comes from tourism and that therefore they would have much more to suffer from the prohibition of the flights of planes that of a few tens of cm of water, knowing that the atolls climbed 100 m with the level of the sea. On the other hand the million Chinese refugees displaced without compensation because of the dam of the three gorges, which is a renewable energy therefore "clean", that nobody cares.

Note also that it is the same for skiing, which is the subject of the thread. Perhaps the warming threatens the lowest at altitude, but if we remove oil and fossils, then we must close them all !! which for the mountains would be rather a good thing ...

[Ahmed]

There is indeed a graduation in the assessment of situations: we can bet that if the million Chinese refugees from the "three gorges" landed in Europe, the media repercussion would be radically different.
The tourist industry rests on the differential of standard of living and on an exotic framework, that obviously supposes a transfer on great distances in a minimum of time, therefore the plane; the economies based on this orientation are therefore fragile by nature ...

[ENERC]

An Italian glacier wrapped in a huge white cloth to limit its melting

€ 114 excluding installation for a glacier at 2700 meters ???? (100 m000 / (2m x 70m) x € 5 per roll)

Let's smoke the carpet, because the glaciers at 2700 meters don't hold up these days. Just yesterday in the Alps, it was 25 ° at 2000m, and therefore about 14 ° C at 3000m. The flow of torrents is purely impressive.

[GuyGadebois]

We are scared of the possibility of Maldives refugees, totally imaginary since the surface of the atolls does not decrease ...

But of course ... and it was not yesterday ... (same, how not to end up being rude when the stake is of such a size ???)

Over the past fifteen years, coastal erosion and rising sea levels have gradually reduced the area of ​​the islands. Coral reefs, which see their growth slowed down by the increase in water temperature, and sometimes even die from it, are no longer able to protect the archipelago. As a result, waves and storms quickly eat away at the coast. These changes are already having devastating effects. Roads and houses collapse, caught up in the sea, coconut palms are swept away, drinking water is now so contaminated by sea water that it is unfit for consumption on several islands. The seaside resorts, which represent a third of the country's income, are also affected.

https://www.courrierinternational.com/a ... -attaquent

[ABC2019]

We are scared of the possibility of Maldives refugees, totally imaginary since the surface of the atolls does not decrease ...

But of course ... and it was not yesterday ... (same, how not to end up being rude when the stake is of such a size ???)

Over the past fifteen years, coastal erosion and rising sea levels have gradually reduced the area of ​​the islands. Coral reefs, which see their growth slowed down by the increase in water temperature, and sometimes even die from it, are no longer able to protect the archipelago. As a result, waves and storms quickly eat away at the coast. These changes are already having devastating effects. Roads and houses collapse, caught up in the sea, coconut palms are swept away, drinking water is now so contaminated by sea water that it is unfit for consumption on several islands. The seaside resorts, which represent a third of the country's income, are also affected.

https://www.courrierinternational.com/a ... -attaquent

voui voui, international mail, great scientific reference !!!

then it reduces by how much per year the surface of the Maldives according to you?

And when we see the head of the capital Male, they don't seem to fear too much the rising waters or the sinking of the corals ...


just with the rubble of everything they put on it in my opinion they are quiet for 200 years of rising water, no need for corals

[GuyGadebois]

then it reduces by how much per year the surface of the Maldives according to you?

Keep taking people for idiots, that's perfect. Do not change anything.

[Christophe]

Let's smoke the carpet, because the glaciers at 2700 meters don't hold up these days. Just yesterday in the Alps, it was 25 ° at 2000m, and therefore about 14 ° C at 3000m. The flow of torrents is purely impressive.

Not true ... for what I know (I know the Chamonix valley): the Bossons glacier and the Mer de Glace are still much lower than 2700 m !!

I'm talking about the ice front, the language ... obviously not the summit ...

Otherwise the average temperature drop is 6.5 ° C / 1000 m ... and not 11 ° C as you say ???

In agreement with the debits on the other hand, I could observe the discharge of the wood power plant !! It's impressive !

https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr ... 56361.html

Launched at 290 km / h, the glacier waters laden with sand (1.000 tonnes per day) put a strain on the turbine: ceramic coated to prevent abrasion, it must nevertheless be changed twice a year. "It's the turbine that is changed most often in France," smiles François-Régis Chevreau, head of the plant.

[Christophe]

And because it's you, this is what it looked like in early July 2019 ... and it is obviously only a fraction of the melting of the Mer de Glace (1/10? 1/100?) !!

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We can see better on video but I'm too lazy to upload the video!

With a bonus, the few covers of the Mer de Glace:

Again a plaster on a wooden leg ...