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Re: Greta facing the deputies




by realistic ecology » 05/08/20, 08:17

sicetaitsimple wrote:Personally, I did not talk about going out of nuclear power, I even said the opposite 3 or 4 pages above.

You weren't targeted.
But it is clear, if we want to be "realistic", that there are very few countries that have power plants under construction in the world, and that even projects in development (that is to say in the phase preceding the decision to do) are few. So this is not a short-term solution, since we were talking about a few decades and "emergency".

Indeed, nuclear power takes time, it will not be enough (mainly because of the irrationality of the populations). This is why I think that the developed countries must also become more sober. Especially since in addition to the problem of global warming there is also the problem of resource depletion. But again, for the same reasons, it will not be enough.

Realism should not be mistaken. It's about assessing situations based on facts, not dogmas or uncontrolled fears. But that doesn't guarantee you'll find a quick fix when there isn't a solution.
However, realism makes it possible to understand that we are going faster against the wall of global warming by using only one tool, renewable energies, than by using all the tools at our disposal, including nuclear power. This is what the IPCC proposes:

“In the majority of low carbon stabilization scenarios (around 450 to 500 ppm CO2eq, levels for which it is at least about as likely as not that the warming will be limited to 2 ° C above pre-industrial levels), the share of low-carbon electricity supply (which includes renewables, nuclear energy and CCS, including BECSC) is increasing from the current proportion of around 30% to over 80% in 2050 and 90% in 2100, and power generation from non-CCS fossil fuels is almost completely abandoned by 2100 ”. (IPCC - Climate change 2014 Synthesis report)
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Re: Greta facing the deputies




by Paul72 » 05/08/20, 13:30

ABC2019 wrote:
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So you admit that going without oil would make life a lot more difficult?

what do you call a "temperature humidity over 60 degrees"?


I wasn't thinking of oil, but rather of agriculture (which by the way depends mostly on it today). Producing while maintaining yields in increasingly degraded conditions is already a challenge today, so with a much more extreme climate it will be a real pain.

Ah yes ?

You realize all the same that whatever the climate change, there are regions that now have the same climate as those we will have in 50 years elsewhere, and that in most cases (except really the extremes such as the desert edges), is it going pretty well?

and if not, if we have to stop the fossils, don't you think it will not be so much trouble to do without?



Like Spain, California, and all the other countries that pump every last drop of water and destroy, pollute soils that are far more fragile than ours, which are already battered? Threatening their own food security?
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by Eric DUPONT » 05/08/20, 20:46

in my opinion renewables will produce 3 times more energy than fossils currently facing what nuclear power represents nothing .. or rather 3 times nothing. : Lol:
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by ABC2019 » 05/08/20, 23:05

Paul72 wrote:Like Spain, California, and all the other countries that pump every last drop of water and destroy, pollute soils that are far more fragile than ours, which are already battered? Threatening their own food security?

well we will wait until Spain and California are depopulated before worrying so ...
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by izentrop » 16/08/21, 01:56

On France 5 tonight and in replay: Greta Thunberg, a future for the planet https://www.france.tv/france-5/greta-th ... -agir.html
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 16/08/21, 03:12

ABC2019 wrote:
Paul72 wrote:Like Spain, California, and all the other countries that pump every last drop of water and destroy, pollute soils that are far more fragile than ours, which are already battered? Threatening their own food security?

well we will wait until Spain and California are depopulated before worrying so ...

Already as despicable as it is today at the time ... to vomit!
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by Janic » 16/08/21, 08:14

greta, the itchy hair of funny people! : Cheesy:
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by ABC2019 » 16/08/21, 08:33

Janic wrote:greta, the itchy hair of funny people! : Cheesy:

she's looking for a way to make a comeback, the covid shattered her starlet career. The star system is hard ... :(
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by Janic » 16/08/21, 09:49

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she's looking for a way to make a comeback, the covid shattered her starlet career. The star system is hard ...
so it continues to serve as scratching hair for zigots like you!
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by izentrop » 16/08/21, 10:06

ABC2019 wrote:
Janic wrote:greta, the itchy hair of funny people! : Cheesy:

she's looking for a way to make a comeback, the covid shattered her starlet career. The star system is hard ... :(
Self-centeredness par "excellence" although it is not a quality in this case.
She herself says that she is surprised to be listened to. As she always said too: it is the scientists who must be listened to, but you only listen to those who satisfy your ego, while constantly hammering your wrong and compulsive point of view in all the subjects.

We can't blame you, it's the soul of forum :frown:
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