Geoengineering: cool the Earth against warming

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Re: Geoengineering: Cooling the Earth Against Global Warming




by Exnihiloest » 28/01/21, 22:51

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:
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GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:When Tryphon calls Bill Gates an environmentalist, it's time for his herbal tea and to go to bed ... : Mrgreen:


Everyone is an environmentalist today. It is the fashion and the moral of the time, a conditioning. Before, the moral was the priests. Today they are the climate preachers and other gurus of pollution-esque catastrophism.

Yes, even the biggest climate-skeptic polluters, we know ... come on ... it's time ... you're hurting yourself and you're going to have trouble sleeping again. : Mrgreen:

That said, if there is such Bill Gates self-proclaimed bishops of environmentalism, there are also obscure sparrows far worse. Their crusaders' affections that play it are pitiful.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 28/01/21, 23:01

Exnihiloest wrote:there are also obscure sparrows much worse.

Obscure being feminine, it is "nun", that should have been used. I know, it's late ... : Mrgreen:
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by izentrop » 29/01/21, 14:27

Exnihiloest wrote:if the scientists were approved to test their theory, they would in fact send only 2 kg of dust (non-toxic!) from a weather balloon nearly 20 km above the ground, above the Arctic."

Ah anyway a little practice, just to be able to demonstrate that it will take much more than 2 kg in the real project.

https://www.rtbf.be/tendance/green/deta ... d=10683691
At other times this experiment could have gone unnoticed but I suppose it needs satellites and Lidar on the ground to be able to have usable results. Suddenly it is propelled in the press, with ideological interpretations.
As we have seen, carbon sinks will not be enough. All low energy and well-controlled solutions are good to take ...
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 29/01/21, 14:29

izentrop wrote:All low energy and well-controlled solutions are good to take ...

And he knows what Izy that throwing shit in the atmosphere is energy efficient and well controlled?
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by izentrop » 29/01/21, 15:32

Ideological response = trash.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 29/01/21, 15:35

izentrop wrote:Ideological response = trash.

More and more collecting ... So the same question (no answer, you got confused) without "ideology": How can we send tons of dust (because it is not with 2 kilos ... ) in the atmosphere without consuming energy and with control?
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 29/01/21, 16:59

So, Izy science, how do you get tons of air going into the atmosphere so that it doesn't use up energy?
You know a modest "I don't know" is enough, eh ... since:

Calcium carbonate dust in the atmosphere

This study is currently being analyzed by David Keith, professor of applied physics and public policy at Harvard University. He and his colleagues at SCoPEx published an article in 2017 suggesting that dust could replenish the ozone layer by reacting with molecules that are currently destroying ozone. But he also recognizes (in addition to the conditional used in the study) that no one knows what will happen until the calcium carbonate is sent in and can study its impact.

So, unless you're smarter than David Keith ....
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by sen-no-sen » 29/01/21, 17:19

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:So, Izy science, how do you get tons of air going into the atmosphere so that it doesn't use up energy?


We wake up a super-volcano .... well it's a bit energy-intensive (H-bomb) but the end justifies the means, right? : Lol:
Recently North Korea worried volcanologists with its nuclear tests and are at risk of volcanic reactivation:
With a power equivalent to 10 kilotons of TNT (barely less than the Hiroshima bomb), the nuclear device caused an earthquake of magnitude 5,3 on the Richter scale at the level of Pungyye-ri, the North Korean nuclear test site. A priori, although these experiences threaten the political stability of the region, all this concerns only North Korea.

Except that the Pungyye-ri site is located 110 km from Mount Paektu, a dormant volcano located between China and North Korea. And that the tremors generated by the tests seem to increase the pressure inside the magma chamber, weakening it in the process. So much so that volcanologists fear that another detonation of similar power will eventually wake up the volcano.

Eruption of Mount Paektu would cover the world with ash

If, for the time being, the North Koreans have mastered "only" standard atomic bombs, it is to be feared that they will soon be able to develop a hydrogen bomb (or thermonuclear bomb). However, on that day, the tremors caused by the explosion will reach a magnitude of 7 on the Richter scale.


Fortunately that did not happen ...
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by izentrop » 29/01/21, 17:54

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:But he also recognizes (in addition to the conditional used in the study) that no one knows what will happen until the calcium carbonate is sent in and can study its impact.
So, unless you're smarter than David Keith.
hence the need for large meteorological resources to study the impact.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 29/01/21, 19:24

izentrop wrote:
GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:But he also recognizes (in addition to the conditional used in the study) that no one knows what will happen until the calcium carbonate is sent in and can study its impact.
So, unless you're smarter than David Keith.
hence the need for large meteorological resources to study the impact.

And if not, an answer to the energy question?
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