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by Christophe » 18/11/11, 10:54

Climate change linked to the rise of natural disasters

PARIS - Droughts, floods, cyclones and fires: climate disasters have become both more frequent and more intense as a result of global warming, and the trend is likely to worsen, warns a report by the UN on climate.

Admittedly, the impact of global warming on such events depends on their very unequal nature and distribution between the different regions of the world. And the level of confidence in the forecasts made by the specialists varies according to the quantity and quality of the data available.

But the hundreds of scientists who have written this report for the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), which AFP has obtained a copy, are formal: the extreme weather events will be generally more marked and more frequent in decades ahead, resulting in increased dangers for most people on our planet.

This is the biggest effort ever made to evaluate how extremes are changing, says Neville Nicholls, a professor at Monash University in Melbourne and coordinator of one of the chapters of this progress report, who can still to be revised by the UN at a meeting in Kampala, before its publication, scheduled for November 18.

A publication that coincides with a series of devastating natural disasters causing many questions and concerns.

In 2010, record temperatures favored forest fires in Siberia, while Pakistan and India experienced unprecedented floods.

This year, the United States has also recorded a record number of disasters, from the floods of Mississippi and Missouri to Hurricane Irene, through the terrible drought that currently affects Texas.

In China, entire regions are also experiencing intense droughts while at the same time torrential rains are ravaging Central America and Thailand.

Weather aberrations or global warming?

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Are these only temporary weather aberrations or rather profound and long-lasting consequences of global warming?

Most of these events are in any case closely related to the consequences of global warming induced by human activities as predicted by scientists: rising temperatures, water content of the atmosphere and temperature at the ocean surface. All of these factors are conducive to extreme weather events.

According to the report, which relies on hundreds of studies published in recent years, it is virtually certain, at 99% or 100%, that the frequency and magnitude of daily heat records will increase at the scale of planet during the nineteenth century.

It is also very likely (90% at 100%) that the duration, frequency and / or intensity of heat waves and heat waves will continue to increase in most areas.

The temperature peaks are probably (66% at 100% certainty) increase compared to the end of the 20th century, up to 3 ° C by 2050 and up to 5 ° C by 2100.

Many areas, especially the tropics and high latitudes, will probably experience more intense rainfall and snowfall. At the same time, droughts will worsen in other parts of the world, particularly in the Mediterranean, Central Europe, North America, North-East Brazil and Southern Africa.

Rising sea levels and temperature are also likely to make cyclones more destructive, while melting glaciers and permafrost, combined with higher precipitation, may trigger more landslides, says the IPCC.


Source: http://www.romandie.com/news/n/_Le_chan ... 111211.asp
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by dedeleco » 18/11/11, 13:35

Very unconvincing, because we have not lived and measured the enormous past fluctuations over the past millennia and therefore we have a false impression accentuated and biased, by our sensitivity to disasters which increases by a very increased population, with many more consciences , much more circulation of information, etc.
And the theoretical models are very imperfect, with a very unstable Earth climate.

In the past, humans were suffering much more in silence in their corner and had almost no memory !!

We discover in sediments, for example, that the United States has had dreadful periods of drought over millennia !!
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by sen-no-sen » 18/11/11, 13:59

dedeleco wrote:Very unconvincing, because we have not lived and measured the enormous past fluctuations over the past millennia and therefore we have a false impression accentuated and biased, by our sensitivity to disasters which increases by a very increased population, with many more consciences , much more circulation of information, etc.
And the theoretical models are very imperfect, with a very unstable Earth climate.


I totally share your opinion Dedelco!
It is still too early to say that it is the real implication of human activity on all its phenomena.
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by Christophe » 18/11/11, 14:02

So what?

When we have certain certainties, the climate machine will certainly be packed and it will certainly be too late to back down ...

We will then say "Ah if we had known ..."
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by sen-no-sen » 18/11/11, 14:11

Christophe wrote:So what?

When we have certain certainties, the climate machine will certainly be packed and it will certainly be too late to back down ...

We will then say "Ah if we had known ..."


To question such studies absolutely does not mean doing nothing!
The problem is more sociological than climatic !:
1) In the absence of tangible proof of the harmful effects of human activity on the climate, the industrialists map on the table to continue their misdeeds.
2) With supporting evidence, the ecological associations, on the contrary, can put pressure to stop its practices ...

The reality is certainly different, but the social culture has made, as usual, to create 2 clans ... Manichaeism when you hold us!
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by Christophe » 18/11/11, 14:25

Moue except that in our system, it is the richest who is always right ...

In other words: the tangible evidence we can still wait for a moment ...

Did you see the latest images of Greenland in summer? It would have lost 50% of its surface since ... not 1900 or 1800 but 2005 !!!

Is not this proof that there is a big climate problem?

If the causes were really not anthropological (natural cycle, solar cycle ...), be sure that CO2 transmitters would advance hundreds of studies !!! Where are they ???

Me I'm wrong?
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by sen-no-sen » 18/11/11, 14:36

Mars is also warming up ... (does it look like a sandstorm that changes the albedo?)
Still, we must be vigilant about the statements of each other, when passion or money gets involved in the debate, we move away from the truth.
On the other hand, I find that we really do not insist on the geopolitical risks related to oil. (Why are you looking for lice in Iran, for example?)
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by Christophe » 18/11/11, 14:44

Everything is a story of dough ...

I don't know who you mean by "we" but there are still quite a few documentaries, books, shows ... etc etc ... which point out the petroleum interests at stake ... and the makes oil control the world!

The latest is the very good: https://www.econologie.com/forums/la-quatrie ... 11253.html

A long time ago I calculated the money reported by crude oil: https://www.econologie.com/l-argent-du-p ... -3297.html
(the taxed oil brings back 2 to 3 times more ...)
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by clasou » 18/11/11, 14:51

Hello sen-no-sen,
I heard this show in rediff, on bfm, the first lien lawyer Ardavan Amir-Aslani.
Listen to his interview and I think you'll get some answers, and slightly different from what you usually hear.

http://www.bfmbusiness.com/podcasts/tel ... mir-Aslani

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by sen-no-sen » 18/11/11, 14:53

Christophe wrote:Everything is a story of dough ...


This is the nerve of war, we agree with it.
What I wanted to emphasize is that currently, it is very difficult to question the thesis of global warming caused by human activities without being classified as a pro-oil.
(I want to clarify that I do not have a specific position on the subject).

(...) there are still quite a few documentaries, books, broadcasts ... etc etc ... that point to the oil interests at stake ... and the fact that oil controls the world!


Of course! the purpose of a structure (biological, social, etc ...) is to keep alive, so it is quite understandable that the tankers want to maintain their activities, and those by all means.
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