20 years: this is the time left to humanity to live on this planet

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Re: 20 years: this is the time left to humanity to live on this planet




by Bardal » 01/12/18, 18:21

Janic wrote:
thanks to public subsidies, all paid much more than nuclear power, making households poorer.
nuclear also only existed thanks to public subsidies and continues to be fueled by them. The EPR is a demonstration of this and the upgrading of the old power plants is not given either. So if RE impoverishes households, what about nuclear power, which will cost considerable sums to be dismantled, to be decontaminated (which we still do not know how to do) and to have to manage the stocks of waste strongly as poorly irradiated over thousands of years and who will pay? Not EDF, nor Areva who will have put the key under the mat since.


If everything you say about vaccines and cancer treatment is of the same level of knowledge as what you say about EDF, I am not ready to follow your advice and recommendations ... Misery of misery ...
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by sen-no-sen » 01/12/18, 18:37

Exnihiloest wrote:
Janic wrote:nuclear also only existed thanks to public subsidies ...

You compare what is not comparable. At the time, telecommunications and television / radio broadcasting were state-owned.
And today, who really wants nuclear power to go private?


By nature nuclear was intended to be a state industrial sector obeying the strategy K, that is to say to exist in the form of large-scale structures of the monopolistic type, centralized and endowed with a low power of evolution.
The wind sector obeyed a strictly opposite principle namely the strategy r, that is to say developed by small companies with the aim of creating decentralized production units of small dimensions with strong competitive power.
In a rather paradoxical but fairly logical way we see that now wind turbines tend to become a tool in the hands of monopolies and that wind turbines tend to become larger and larger, we find our strategy K... at the same time more and more private sector nuclear companies tend to develop small power plants with high adaptive power (strategy r)


Reminder of evolutionary biology, here I made a comparison between biology and wind and nuclear industry:
Strategy r example mouse or wind turbine period 1980/2015

High fertility / many wind projects.
Low parental investment in the survival of each descendant / low initial financial investment.
Significant infant mortality / very many projects aborted.
Short life cycle / life of a wind turbine between 5/20 years
Rapid growth / Installation in a few weeks.
Early sexual maturity / rapid technological maturity.
Significant adult mortality / non-occurrence
Low competition capacity / uncompetitive in view of other energy sources
Large dispersal capacity / This is why the Germans made this choice! : Wink:

Strategy k example elephant ... or nuclear period 1960/2020.
Low fertility / limited number of projects
A strong parental investment in the survival of each descendant / strong state investment.
Lower infant mortality / project largely supported by the state so that it does not collapse.
Long life cycle / lifetime of a plant 40 / 60,80 (?) Years
Slow growth construction of a nuclear power plant 5 years.
Late sexual maturity / fairly long technological maturity.
Very strong ability to compete / Nuclear is very resistant to fossils.
High survival / Nuclear one day nuclear always!
Small dispersal capacity / difficulty selling nuclear power plants.
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Re: 20 years: this is the time left to humanity to live on this planet




by Janic » 02/12/18, 09:02

hello bardal
If everything you say about vaccines and cancer treatment is of the same level of knowledge as what you say about EDF, I am not ready to follow your advice and recommendations ... Misery of misery ...
what you say here makes sense! Indeed, apart from personal experience, all, without exception, we only report the speech made by others.
So do not believe what I say more than what others say who think they know better and go directly to experimentation.
If you have cancer (it becomes commonplace since more than 385.000 cases revealed per year, but 150.000 certain failures) you have the possibility of blindly believing in the system in place, it is rather ineffective but extremely reassuring, or even think outside the box , to think correctly and there, you find yourself alone in the total disapproval of your family circle, health "authorities" of all kinds and even more if it only concerns you as an adult, but it is even worse if it is a child. For that you have to have balls like watermelons to get into a fight that you are said to be lost in advance, except when you no longer have confidence in the system (because death is getting closer every day for claim his due) and his brainwashing. and it doesn't happen with the snap of a finger.
So especially don't believe me (I have also not proposed anything concerning cancer except that it is the totality of behavior that must be rethought) and it is the same for vaccines. As long as everything is fine, why ask questions? When everything is going badly and the flesh of your flesh is brutally victimized, will you change your opinion?

Cancer figures 2015
385 new cancer cases estimated in 000 in mainland France
211 new cases in men
174 new cases in women
149 cancer deaths estimated in 500
84 in men
65 in women
3 million people have survived cancer.
43 patients are included in clinical trials

Source: Cancers in France in 2015, INCa
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Re: 20 years: this is the time left to humanity to live on this planet




by izentrop » 05/12/18, 23:13

The Swiss have had exceptional episodes this year.
For the first time, they talk about it and envision the worst:
https://www.rts.ch/play/tv/19h30/video/ ... -la-suisse
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Re: 20 years: this is the time left to humanity to live on this planet




by Exnihiloest » 09/12/18, 20:44

Gone in a storm, their page "climate-change-for-the-first-time-a-scenario-of-great-magnitude-is-brushed-for-Switzerland"?

In any case exceptional episodes de climate, this year, I find the wording a bit odd.
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by izentrop » 10/12/18, 00:09

Oops! incomplete link ...
And concretely https://www.rjb.ch/rjb/Actualite/Suisse ... tique.html

Not that "exceptional episodes" .. disbeliever : Wink:
In Switzerland, the average temperature has increased by 2 degrees, more than double the world average, continued the President of the Confederation. The most visible impact is the melting and then the disappearance of the glaciers. These have lost a fifth of their volume over the past ten years, said Alain Berset.
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Re: 20 years: this is the time left to humanity to live on this planet




by yves35 » 10/12/18, 01:31

Hello,


Cancer figures 2015
385 new cancer cases estimated in 000 in mainland France
211 new cases in men
174 new cases in women
149 cancer deaths estimated in 500
84 in men
65 in women
3 million people have survived cancer.
43 patients are included in clinical trials
Source: Cancers in France in 2015, INCa

there is an obvious and too little disseminated means (thank you janic !!!) to fight against cancers: fight against vaccines. The more people who die from infectious diseases, the less cancer patients get. We will take care to discredit antibiotics and to recommend nettle teas.

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Re: 20 years: this is the time left to humanity to live on this planet




by izentrop » 10/12/18, 02:48

Your intervention would no longer have a place in this subject post349959.html # p349959
That said, it is entirely relevant, Yves 35 : Wink:
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Re: 20 years: this is the time left to humanity to live on this planet




by Janic » 10/12/18, 09:54

yves 35
there is an obvious and too little disseminated means (thank you janic !!!) to fight against cancers: fight against vaccines. The more people who die from infectious diseases, the less cancer patients get. We will take care to discredit antibiotics and to recommend nettle teas.
whatever distorted compared to reality, it is not that false. Indeed each year there are almost the same number of deaths regardless of the means used to try to reduce the number of these deaths. Whether it is with or without vaccines, with or without nettle herbal teas, this is a statistical fact. But if you have the quick fix you will become a national hero, even more worshiped than Pastor.
More people who die from infectious diseases mean fewer older cancer patients

Or even fewer children who die from infectious diseases, it's more kids who die from cancer (statistics from the INVS, INSERM et cie) that works too. So make your choice! nature abhors a vacuum and when a space becomes available it is immediately occupied by something else: childhood illness or childhood cancer.
As for adults, but you may not know enough about the subject, adults who have had their childhood illnesses are protected FOR LIFE and therefore will not die from these infectious diseases in question, at least some such as these childhood illnesses, which the OFFICIAL literature recognizes as being mostly BENIGNES.
For antibiotics, it was those that were used from plants that helped develop these products in question and it worked very well. The synthesis of these works much less well and they lose their effectiveness as underlined and recognized by the medical profession because the organisms become antimicrobial resistant. And this is the big concern of scientists who have little alternative!… .Except the herbal tea of ​​nettles? : Cheesy: : Cheesy:
In addition, the same phenomenon also occurs concerning the viruses [*] which mutate at full speed adapting to the new biological situations of the living beings. (See the play of the cat and the mouse between the flu and the vaccines with each times a metro late)
But faith works miracles it seems and so as long as you believe in the vaccine miracle, it can work!
And as finally, depending on the subject, we only have 20 years left, " eat and drink because tomorrow we will die"

[*] Https://www.planetoscope.com/Le-corps-humain/1670-nombre-de-virus-respires-par-chaque-personne.html
We inhale on average 200 viruses per minuteor 3333 viruses per second or 105 billion a year !
Viruses are on the order of a micrometer (0.001 millimeter) and are everywhere. They belong to the family of the living (although this aspect is a debate), but little is known about them. They are one of the last frontiers in biological exploration on Earth.
South Korean researchers conducted a metagenomic study (genetic study of samples found in nature) on the atmosphere at ground level. The first of its kind, it estimates between 17 and 000 the number of viruses inhaled into our lungs every minute. When jogging, it is possible to breathe up to 400 million per minute.

1 cubic meter of air contains between 1.7 and 40 million viruses,
1 m3 of air = 860 to 000 million bacteria.

More generally, the study of this invisible population was done in different types of places and during different periods, in order to better understand the factors influencing viral spread. Three different sites have been selected in Seoul: a residential area, an industrial environment and a forest. The surveys lasted several months and consisted of capturing organisms below the micrometer using a sort of liquid filter, cleaning them, extracting the DNA and finally comparing them to existing databases.
Astonishing: the amplitude of the results does not depend on the medium of capture, but on the period during which they were carried out. In fact, the air contains more viruses in winter. A peak is reached in January to go back down with the arrival of spring.
From a scientific point of view, the most interesting aspect of the study is the discovery of many viruses.

More than half of the genetic sequences analyzed did not belong to any database, the main thing being simple DNA branches, such as Geminiviridae. These are logical discoveries when we know that very little research has been carried out on the microbial ecology of air, in particular because these analyzes are very complex and relatively long to carry out. Today, studies are helped by metagenomics. (source: biolaune)

Cool, the labs will be able to create hundreds of thousands of vaccines to deal with all of these nasty viruses that we breathe every day (they would work on 200 vaccines already, it seems!) for business! :?
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Re: 20 years: this is the time left to humanity to live on this planet




by izentrop » 12/12/18, 19:55

By 2050, 50 to 700 million people could be forced to migrate because of ... "critical" soil conditions https://www.sciencesetavenir.fr/nature- ... nes_122473
Soils lose quality when they are overexploited or poorly exploited. Arable land is becoming less and less numerous on the planet's surface and this will increasingly lead to populations moving. "By 2050, this degradation combined with the problems of climate change, which are closely linked to it, will force 50 to 700 million people to migrate," said the researchers.

According to the study, the most optimistic projections (50 million people forced to move to find a better quality of soil), will be achieved even if everything is in place to reduce our impact and minimize climate change. The report also points out that "declining soil productivity makes societies more vulnerable to social instability, especially in drier regions, where years of very low rainfall have been associated with an increase in violent conflict of up to 45% ". Soil degradation would therefore be a source of war.
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