Little gossip of miscellaneous facts in France or elsewhere...

[Janic]

in short, like the school of the republic where Catholic religious evangelism is replaced by atheist religious evangelism. So where is the difference?

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

National education is not "atheist", it is secular and welcomes everyone.

[A.D. 44]

And what does the Pope think today?

There is no time or day to meditate.

Not just at Easter... and whether at camp in Caen or elsewhere.

[Janic]

Janic, you write: "Absolutely right! Hence the misuse of the word pedophile to justify pedocriminality."

ahmed

There is no logical connection in this statement to my observation of the absence of a past participle and a verb.
Rejecting this neologism not for its form, but for its lack of foundation, I would refrain from thinking of proposing another.

hence the use of this neologism giving substance to a social reality necessary to designate a factual situation. If there is pedophilia having established intimate relations with a child, we can and must say that he was....loved? Make us a concrete proposal without backing out as usual.
So as a reminder, Greek, which is rich in various scabrous situations, does not give any body to a new word in their vocabulary (unless I am mistaken) and which is not found in Greek dictionaries, whereas this situation of sexual relations with children, according to their age, probably existed in Greece regardless of the period. We must therefore wait until the middle of the 20th century for an individual (unknown?) to invent a concept relating to a situation which will be a hit in the media (as is currently the case, for the worse). However, inventing a new word without giving it a precise and particular meaning creates a gap which will be filled by a new distinction between pedophile, pedophilia, pedosexuality and pedocriminality on a need to distinguish various distinct behaviors on the behavioral and legal level. However, the meaning of pedophile is more or less replaced by the more precise pedophilia while keeping the previous, more vague term in a sort of catch-all and which is therefore destined to disappear in the long term. Hence my question, which no one wanted to answer: how do we describe parents who love their children as if they were someone else's, without any possible deviationism, as with the other descriptions above?

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

The French word "pedophile", in the spelling "pædophile", is attested in French in a modern sense in 1788 in a translation of the works of Lucian of Samosata

(wiki)

[Ahmed]

You write incorrectly (mistake): "a concept about a situation that will anthology flourishing in the media."
For the rest, if there is no term that suits you, it is probably because the need is not felt...

I note, in view of the contribution of Guy, which you have not "verified".

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

Not verified but answered with an "internationalizing" linguistic pirouette to "explain".... well, you have to read it to believe it!
society-and-philosophy/allopathy-vs-global-natural-medicine-t17123-130.html?#p512720

Ps: Storgê (στοργή) is the Greek word for familial love. It is a strong emotional relationship between friends or relatives, based on mutual care, without sexual factors. This term is generally used to describe a parent's love for their child, "taking care of them."

Philia (φιλία): In the Nicomachean Ethics, Aristotle calls philia the affection that makes us love someone for what they are, and not for what they can bring us. He distinguishes three forms of friendship according to whether it aims at utility, pleasure or virtue. The concept of philia encompasses all interpersonal relationships, and can refer to that of a father with his children, a husband with his wife, or a leader with his subjects.

[Janic]

ahmed

You wrote incorrectly (mistake): "a concept about a situation that will be a hit in the media."

Absolutely right, please correct the inappropriate expression.

For the rest, if there is no term that suits you, it is probably because the need is not felt...

Indeed, there is no term that suits me, and not just me, as evidenced by the (well-written) Wikipedia article. Why would this need not have been felt? Because, culturally, some authors were unable or unwilling to express it in this way.
While many occurrences for other terms do. Thus, a person injured by a thief will say that they were robbed, attributing to this act a qualifier using the root of the term and its conjugation with a verb. To steal! the same as for rape, for example, where the same is true.
Definition
The word "pedophilia" is formed from the Greek roots παῖς / paîs ("child") and φιλία / philía ("friendship"). The etymological meaning of the word therefore leads to friendship for children. In fact, the word "pederasty" would be more suitable for the current meaning given to the word pedophilia, since pederasty is formed from the roots παῖς / paîs ("child") and ἔρως / érôs ("SEXUAL LOVE").

Then, whether this term pedophile could have been diverted from its original meaning to focus solely on sexuality, we would have to go back in time to find out, which is currently not possible.

I see, from Guy's contribution, that you have not "checked".

That's right, I haven't checked everything which would require being a specialist on the subject.

GuyGadeboisLeRetour pedophiliac with love!
Ps: Storgê (στοργή) is the Greek word that describes family love. It is a strong emotional relationship between friends or relatives, based on mutual attention, WITHOUT SEXUAL FACTOR. This term is generally used to describe a parent's love for their child, "taking care of them."

Philia (φιλία): In the Nicomachean Ethics, Aristotle calls philia the affection that makes us love someone for what they are, and not for what they can bring us. He distinguishes three forms of friendship according to whether it aims at utility, pleasure or virtue. The concept of philia encompasses all interpersonal relationships, and can refer to that of a father with his children, a husband with his wife, or a leader with his subjects.

Great article

Storgê (στοργή) is the Greek word that describes family love.

To be more precise, it indicates tenderness towards others or philostorgia, which does not imply any notion of sexuality either.
Moreover, the term philia can mean both friendship and passion expressing a strong affection (or strong emotional relationship ) which may have given an impression of a link with sexuality.
So in our current language, we say making love for a sexual relationship even when a sexual relationship is independent of any affection as shown by prostitution (or having a quickie) without any feeling for the partner and therefore the term pedophile reminds us that friendship does not include sexuality.

[Ahmed]

Where the need for a nominal phrase is not generally felt, however, there are periphrases which allow the desired semantic content to be expressed and this explains the modesty of this need which would otherwise have been fulfilled, nature having a horror of a vacuum.

[Janic]

Where the need for a nominal phrase is not generally felt, however, there are periphrases which allow the desired semantic content to be expressed and this explains the modesty of this need which would otherwise have been fulfilled, nature having a horror of a vacuum.

always in prose of a good intellectual level!
so:

and this explains the modesty of this need which otherwise would have been met,

or rather could and even should have been filled.
Each era, depending on the culture and tradition of a moment in history, favors one form of thought or another.
The current legal distinction makes it possible to update a discourse that has been rather under wraps for various socio-cultural reasons, see a moralmore or less religious. Hence, fortunately, this establishment of legal classifications to clarify the different nuances of relationships between adults and children. In fact, the passage before the courts, not having to be satisfied with a culturally vague definition, is precise in its form as in its substance according to the facts in which category each case should be judged.