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by I Citro » 03/12/07, 13:36

:| Well yes, everyone can be wrong, we saw it 1/2 second in overview on TV and she was lying on the ground ...

With the added bonus of the erroneous comments of the TV presenters (the incapacitated paid a fortune and who call themselves journalists). : Evil:

My Honda 80cc, however small, seemed much bigger than that (3 "rear wheel and 16" front wheel).
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by Christophe » 03/12/07, 13:46

oliburn wrote:it's a Kawa 85 cm3 KX and it costs 3800 euros new : Cheesy:
it's a real motorcycle (even if it's a little lower) that climbs trees, holds the pavement well and brakes well
it is a real cross machine, but prohibited on the road


This is what seemed to me like a mini bike, it's something else ... thank you for the precision ... But that doesn't change anything regarding the impact of the accident ...
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by bpval » 03/12/07, 17:56

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Looking at the "mini" motorcycle on

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkRoqiwIrBc

I have a doubt regarding the assimilation to a Kx 85

Not the same rear gable
The frame is not the same
The comparison between the shoe and the size of the machine leaves me skeptical

But hey it's not the main thing

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by oliburn » 03/12/07, 19:29

I did not investigate the problem, it is by listening to RMC INFO
that a witness close to the victims said the make and model
of the motorbike ... it's not exactly the one in the photo (for info
the KX 60, and 80 were released in 1983). it's just to give
an indication ... it doesn't matter, in fact we don't care
the bike, just don't believe it was a pocket-bike, because many people believe it ........
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by Former Oceano » 03/12/07, 19:52

I have already seen motorcycles in side-by-side motorcycles. When they do not have fairings (which is the case here) the damage is relatively invisible, unless they slip under another vehicle which literally lime them.

A frontal impact will bend the fork twisting the wheel and this is particularly visible. Looking again at the video, we see that the impact on the windshield was in the front right.

It is an unfortunate accident which is aggravated by the absence of wearing protective equipment, because at 50 km / h without a helmet, a car kills a biker. Besides, stuntmen have demonstrated road safety for young people.

When today's small motorcycles, even 50cc, exceed 90 km / h and if the model is not road, grip on the ground - braking or cornering - is not the most reassuring. ..

In short, it was an unfortunate accident for everyone, whether the victims, their families, the driver and the passengers of the vehicle with which the collision occurred - it was a police vehicle - but it could also have been a father. family returning home after a day of work. Would there have been the same outbreak of violence against him?

Let us also remind our children, the children of our neighbors that the helmet can save and that it is not silly to wear one ...
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by gegyx » 03/12/07, 22:17

I was interested in the case, looking on the Internet, if this "mini bike" was a "pocket bike". The son of a colleague bought a cross country bike, not approved the size of the victim. After wallowing, the steering column tube opened…
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So, I looked for images, articles, comments, videos (which disappeared the next day), and piqued by a growing curiosity, I kindly made an opinion, which does not at all fit with the idea of media, police, various discussions of each on inaccurate facts, and most serious with the opinion of the general inspection of the police….

It is easy for everyone, with patience, to seek out these testimonials and to form an opinion.
Mine is already done.
Without speaking of "global conspiracy", once again, it is nevertheless obvious that one twists, modifies the information, to bring it in the direction which the authorities impose. Everything is good, to get to say for "the wisest" among us, that this affair is very unfortunate, and that the imprudence (impudence?) Of the young people is obvious. Period.

If you search for the truth for yourself, you will see that it is not really very clear…
That the police made false statements, supported by their hierarchy, and the authorities, and I also fear by the justice…
How is it possible ? This is where reflection, and revolt becomes necessary.
If opinion is deceived, for an ordinary "accident" case, what should it be for all the other, more "important" information, concerning the economy, defense, privileges, diplomacy ...
By investigating this sordid affair, this approach, this research is within everyone's reach, to open our eyes to our comic society (dictatorial process),
if he obviously wishes ...
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by Capt_Maloche » 04/12/07, 08:57

I watched the video, it's a Dirt Bike enduro 125 or more, handlebar height 1.10m, 73 Kg, consumption 2l / 100 (this is for econologists :? ) I chose them for that, they fit straight into my Renault rear seat space removed.

I have myself 2 in the garage to make trips in the fields with the son (prohibited without the father, on the road, with helmets, gloves ... etc, but I am not safe from an unfortunate initiative ...)

here are mine: Dirt enduro 125 and Dirt ado 110
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in any case, riding without a helmet and without lights on the road is a big bullshit for teenagers, which unfortunately cost life

But too much tobacco around this affair, there are deaths every day on motorcycles, people who work and who respect the highway code, who have "undeserved" accidents, and they do not appear on TV

That's all this stuff
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by SixK » 04/12/07, 09:49

The bike is a 2-stroke (exhaust), so it may be a KX 85 ... Finally, whatever the becanne does not seem anyway not equipped for the road.

Given the state of the car, it would surprise me that the cops were driving below 70 km / h!

This case reminds me of an accident that happened to us between a CRS truck and a police car on December 31 if I remember correctly ...
The guys were called on an emergency (official version) ...
So the 2 vehicles were driving at the same time in defiance of all safety!
And collided at a crossroads.
In the final there is a passerby who found himself in the comma. (and maybe a policeman killed, I don't have that much in my memory ...)

@christophe, I'm a biker too and this kind of accident serves us all! Because the amalgam is quickly made!


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by SixK » 04/12/07, 21:14

Well, it didn't take long:
http://www.moto-net.com/actualites-moto ... damne.html

In addition to being a biker, I practice the mini-motorcycle on kart tracks with all the safety equipment that is going well, it hurts me to be assimilated to the unconscious who ride without helmet, without gloves, without jacket. .

And soon the technical control for the 2 motorized wheels ....

Come on I stop there anyway this subject has nothing to do with econology.

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