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by abyssin3 » 29/08/06, 12:21

: Idea: In short, you just have to replant it in the garden to decorate ... : Idea:
: Idea: You could even give it a name : Shock: : Idea:
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by Rulian » 29/08/06, 16:11

Bibiphoque wrote:Hello,
Are you sure ? from the photos, it seems to me that these are high lepiotes, so coulemelles : Cry:
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Vivi, after a long evaluation, we came to the conclusion that these were ragged lepiots, edible although apparently worse than coulemelles. It was the large scales on the hat and the pink marks on the wound that allowed us to decide. The coulemelles do not have such large "scales" and do not turn pink at the wound. Also pay attention to the Lepiote brown-incarnat, which is a deadly little sparrow. It can be recognized by its size and especially by its little or no formed ring. All these beautiful people can quickly be alike, be careful.

Pollux, thank you for the details on the porcini mushrooms. It must be a story of limestone so ... since around Caen it is VERY limestone : Cry:

My second exit attempt this morning brought me two unfortunate coulemelles (real ones this time 8) ) and at the end a big stroke of luck: a big beef tongue. I miss more than the recipe : Mrgreen:
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by neant » 29/08/06, 16:21

it can be eaten raw and in a beef tongue salad.
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by Rulian » 29/08/06, 20:57

Yeah well I tasted ... cooked or raw, it's not terrible beef tongue ...
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by neant » 29/08/06, 23:06

Well, beef tongue doesn't taste too much, c bcp of water!
It must also be stripped.

it's not worth a hen of the woods (oak trippe), or good coulemelles au gratin in the oven!
However, coulemelles are frequently glassy. They must be picked in a club.

For Christophe's vine, the mushroom deposits buy them, even the greens, they are used to make soups.
I believe from having done the test on coulemelles that the heat makes the bugs come out of the fungus.

0.30 ctmes euros per kg of vines with green tubes.
1.20 euros per kg with yellow pluto tubes.
and 3 euros per kg for white tube vines, therefore young.
It was the redemption prices last week in the Vosges.
it can go up to 7 euros / kg of white vines, see 9 euros qd is not a good year.

If not for info the fungi are sexual, and quite often tetrapolar, it is necessary that several differently sexed sporers meet to create a new mycelium which will give new "fruits".

It is therefore better to throw mushrooms that are too advanced in a place different from the one where they were gathered if we want to promote reproduction.
Sometimes it takes up to 4 different sexes for certain mycelium of fungus.
The fungal kingdom is really exciting and very beautiful too.

And contrary to popular belief, fly agaric is not fatal, that which is fatal is phalloid amanita, there is no chance of escaping.
When you realize you are sick, your kidneys are already necrotic. It is a very violent poison.
Death occurs 3 weeks after ingestion, and the patient remains conscious until death.

So be extremely careful with mushrooms.
If necessary, go to a pharmacy if in doubt.
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by elephant » 29/08/06, 23:56

actually fly agaric would be hallucinogenic, but in any case its consumption is not recommended : Mrgreen:

be careful under the fir woods: 2 mushrooms are alike (this must be the spoon) one small, the other large. the little one is fatal and can be confused with the big one: to be avoided absolutely

it seems that a fragment of a few cm³ of phalloid amanita is fatal, but I thought it attacked the liver (according to a mycophilic and mycophagous pharmacist friend)

in fact, the only "safe" technique is to specialize little by little: to know with the help of a specialist qq "safe" mushrooms with their biotope (eg the armillary only on the stumps) and know his lookalikes well. (besides knowing the mortals)
learn to also recognize their state of freshness (e.g. ink black coprin is edible when young and is found in meadows), also know those for which alcohol consumption should be avoided (coprin also)

avoid placing them in a plastic bag, the ideal is the flat wicker basket to avoid contamination
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by Exceed » 30/08/06, 02:18

Hi Christopher,
Nice picking ...
A little picker tip ... for the coulemelle or tall sparrow, it should only be picked up in the meadows, its adult size reaching 25 to 30 cm in height ... so only pick up adult subjects because in the family of mushrooms : Evil: big danger for small models that are generally found only in the woods ...
When you are not sure, you pick up in a separate bag, you need as many bags as there are different varieties ... do not mix questionable mushrooms !!!
Too bad for your big porcini mushroom .... which, by the way, is not one!
There is not, in the "family" of porcini mushrooms, a blue mushroom to the touch or to the break ... in the boletus family on the other hand, there are many! Rare are those who have the culinary value explaining their harvest (ex: red footed bolete, velvet brown hat, red pores, foot pigmented with red, turning blue when broken ...) ... at the moment the forests of the Parc du livradois-forez are invaded by fungi .... and especially collectors !!! So do not hesitate to climb a little in altitude towards vollore-montagne (drill) or fournols (livradois) ... you will tell me the news!
Good pickings and don't destroy the mushrooms that you don't pick up ... others pick them up! Another thing ... which is often contradicted ... never pick a cepe by cutting it ... you have to dislodge it, remove the whole mushroom, then plug the hole ... if you cut it, there at risk of contamination by one or more parasitic fungi destroying the myscelium ... sniff! sniff!

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by neant » 30/08/06, 07:25

Do not overdo it either on the spears, the deadly spawn is really small, it is very very difficult to make a mistake, moreover, the hat margin is serrated a bit like a placemat.
The deadliest is the ingrown brown lepiote, it has no ring.
deadly lepiots do not exceed 10 cm in height, and they cause phalloid syndrome.

The non-lethal toxicants are the brown pepe, which has no unpinned ring, and the false brown pepe, which has a semblance of a ring, but which is small for a pepe and the hat is twisted.

The other inedible and / or slightly poisonous mushrooms are larger; the spearhead with a forked blade pluto rare its hat is covered with pointed scales, the crested spawn when it does not have a real ring.
And also the shark mushroom which has a ring but whose lower part of the foot under the ring has granular flakes.

You will therefore have to consume, the ragged mushroom (with its ragged hat) my book gives 3 casseroles as for the vines, and the famous coulemelle with its famous double ring. There my book gives 2 pans in culinary value.

I remember the lessons of spoons, mushrooms really have different tastes and aspects depending on the terrain and wood, for the same mushroom, the taste qualities vary.

The coulemelles of certain woods are sometimes much better than the mushrooms of certain meadows.
A good indicator to see the presence of worms; if you see small red dots on the coverslips, the fungus is warty.
If there are only one or two points, there is a verse, therefore, we do not throw the mushroom, we cut it, and we follow the gallery until we extract the piece where there is the verse .
The nose is also a very good indicator for edible mushrooms, the smell is quite close to that of button mushrooms, indeed the coulemelle is the big cousin of agarics.

To know also, in any case you can bring to the mouth all the raw mushrooms and make the taste buds work, even a phaloid amanitis, you can, but be careful, NEVER SWALLOW YOUR SALIVA
Certain fungi cause very painful constrictions in the mouth, they are not fatal, however, simply unbuffable because they are really repellents.
Rule of thumb, never swallow your saliva.

Generally people are more afraid of coulemelles and epiotes, however, being wrong is really very very difficult because these mushrooms are so easy to identify.

For the amanita, in fact the flycatcher is hallucinogenic not good for tripping because vomiting and diarrhea to the key!
Besides, toxins are never assimilated by the body, the kidneys reject them, the Vikings ate fly agaric to get high, and they collected their urine to drink and get high again !!!
The phaloid does not attack the kidneys, but the liver, I made a mistake, for the rest it's good. Death is the key, it is the public enemy n ° 1.

It is the Orellanian syndrome consequence of ingestion of the annatto-colored cortex that causes necrosis of the kidneys. Only a kidney transplant can give a chance of survival.
Or alternatively replacement dialysis, if the patient is taken on time.
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by neant » 30/08/06, 07:34

Ha yes something else, never use plastic bags, in a few hours, mushrooms can appear on the mushrooms. And then it's not pleasant mushroom porridge.
And yes, decomposers also have enemies that break them down, but smaller.
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by Bibiphoque » 30/08/06, 08:15

Hello,
Thank you for the details on the lepiotes, for my part I had retained that the "large" are edible, without making any precise distinction.
The fly agaric poisoning syndrome is quite specific, because it contains a lot of atropine, so dilation of the pupils etc. Also called crazy mushroom, it causes hallucinations often leading to tantrums, it is used in shamanic ceremonies in eastern countries. but it is not without risk to consume it because the levels of toxins can vary enormously from one copy to another. (( : Mrgreen: : Shock: better settle for psylocibes or the like! LOL)
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