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by Obamot » 03/01/11, 18:32

The benefit of the doubt? Waiting for the arguments? But it's not me who decides.
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by Christophe » 03/01/11, 18:35

He gave them his arguments: videos ...
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by Obamot » 03/01/11, 18:38

It's NOT his arguments, but those videos, nuance 8)
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by dedeleco » 03/01/11, 19:00

Makharov says:
I energize my water with a cocktail of éléctrode. The device is supplied with 19 of them. For me it is gold, silver, copper magnesium, manganese and I add selenium and zinc because I am a deficiency.


Some metals especially selenium in water are very dangerous, and so having fun putting a selenium electrode can be criminal and poison very easily :

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9l%C3%A9nium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selenium
It is a trace element, but at a very low dose. It is toxic (even very toxic in some forms) at concentrations barely higher than those which make it an essential trace element.
Toxicity threshold
A threshold is currently established at approximately 3-4 μg / g for sediments, soil and water
Like all elements, selenium is toxic at too high a dose. It can lead to nausea, diarrhea, weakening of the nails, hair loss or fatigue. US guidelines indicate a maximum daily dose of 400 μg / day, and supplementation easily reaches 200 μg / day, in addition to nutritional intake, exposing the risk of overdose.
A dose of 5 milligram (5000 μg) per day can be lethal for many humans.
Dietary selenium comes from nuts, cereals, meat, mushrooms, fish, and eggs. Brazil nuts are the richest ordinary dietary source (though this is soil-dependent, since the Brazil nut does not require high levels of the element for its own needs). In descending order of concentration, high levels are found in kidney, tuna, crab, and lobster. [19] [20]

The human body's content of selenium is believed to be in the 13-20 milligram range.
Symptoms of selenosis include gastrointestinal disorders, hair loss, sloughing of nails, fatigue, irritability, and neurological damage. Extreme cases of selenosis can result in cirrhosis of the liver, pulmonary edema, and death.[


Finally, how do you know that you have a deficiency of selenium and zinc ????????????????????


So be very scientifically careful with selenium !!!!!

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc
there may be in the populations of rich countries a zinc deficiency linked to an unbalanced diet


So instead of taking risks, with additives and dubious stuff, eat balanced by varying your food even more, as I do and exercise every day !!
You greatly reduce the risk of various diseases that affect us!
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by Makarov » 03/01/11, 19:45

Quickly do like that by the way.
As I know my subject in organic farming (BTS) I can say that the current diet is deficient in everything (cf Burgundy) so this side no problem. Then see the trace element and Oligotherapy Dr. Binet.
The electrodes do not diffuse metal or in a colloidal form, this metal passes in the form of energy in the water thus in vibratory form. (no danger, therefore). I have a sign of Zinc deficiency selenium under colloidal strength and at prescribed doses has no toxicity. Anti mycotic. Anti-cancer on malignant tumor (cf Dr. Leriche)
The phy serum has never treated anyone sorry or so: (source?)
On the other hand the plasma of Quiton him yes. I show videos because it deals with the subject and makes it possible to understand a lot of things fairly quickly, to help me along the way and to help others understand different aspects of the same subject. Then there is the bibliographic study phase and finally the replication. Personally, I am humble enough to think that we always have to learn from others and exchange with others, which is why I put these links are important to expand at first are personal and necessarily narrow field of vision. And I already said it is a quality that is missing a lot here.
In addition I do not write for the moderator or friends of the modo (nothing personal Christophe) but for open-minded people with whom I can share what I do and saw that before acting out, I I have a lot of information, I have met a lot of people, I have trained, I am self-taught in a lot of things but I also have study luggage, so it is to make others benefit from my experience and of my discoveries. But it seems to me that before discussing a subject one has to inquire. Is it a scientific approach? but on this subject I see only an obscure skepticism. I'm talking about something that took me years so I invite everyone to a little, I repeat, humility and watch the videos, read the texts then we can talk about knowing.
Mr. Dedeleco quotes from Wikipedia which is anything but a scientific source lol and takes me for a child who would have discovered a new toy talking about the trace element so I invite him again to read, among other course, Dr. Binet's book quoted above and why not return to school benches that would not hurt anyone. : Idea: :?:
PS what I did after more than ten years of active life and I find it very good especially since I was with 19ans 20 farmers sons.
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by Obamot » 03/01/11, 21:43

What are we talking about? On which individual? Which squares? A lot of confusion here ...
Here is an answer, but there will not be two, given the unfriendly content of these remarks. And insults:
Except reversal and mea culpa kneeling ... : Mrgreen:

Makarov wrote:Quickly do like that by the way.
As I know my subject in organic farming (BTS) I can say that the current diet is deficient in everything (cf Burgundy) so this side no problem. Then see the trace element and Oligotherapy Dr. Binet.

1here confusion: It's not the food that's "Deficient" but the choice of consumers that they can put themselves in this situation. On the other hand there are serious labels like Demeter, but that's another story. It is better for someone to have a balanced diet first but get their food from the local supermarket, rather than eat all organic food, but with bugs or someone who drinks water "scientifically perfect", but who would have completely planted in essential issues ... which seems to be obviously the case throughout posts ...

Makarov wrote:The electrodes do not diffuse metal or in a colloidal form, this metal passes in the form of energy in the water thus in vibratory form. (no danger, therefore). I have a sign of Zinc deficiency selenium under colloidal strength and at prescribed doses has no toxicity. Anti mycotic.

Second confusion: there may be some mismatches in certain elements such as magnesium (ie zinc, etc.), but that has nothing to do with priorities with the rest! There is other priorities to settle on the plan of the carrences BEFORE this one!

Makarov wrote: the selenium under colloidal strength and at the prescribed doses has no toxicity. Anti mycotic. Anti-cancer on malignant tumor(cf Dr. Leriche)
Third confusion: it is perhaps a rare element that plays a role in cases that are not very referenced, and therefore not significant. But it's serious to say that, and can be dangerous to believe, especially for those whose condition requires something else ... virtually ALL cases do not require THAT!
Serious studies show that the body develops cancer - somehow "Because he needs it" (ie Dr. Kousmine and some others ...). It is perfectly clear that an organism with malignant tumors will not be able to be restored solely by making the selenium that is well, or even magnesium or other secondary input. This is not what we need first! If nothing else has been fixed, it will not be enough! What is needed is a "complex" of elements set with individual priorities

Makarov wrote: The phy serum has never treated anyone sorry or so: (source?)
On the other hand the plasma of Quiton him yes. I show videos because it deals with the subject and makes it possible to understand a lot of things fairly quickly, to help me along the way and to help others understand different aspects of the same subject.

Fourth confusion: Neither I, nor Christophe, nor Dedelco, nor probably anyone here doubts that we do not know everything about water or the fact that its quality plays a determining role on our body and our health ... As an example, we saw what happened in Haiti with cholera VS endemic food kernels and also in the main register: by the fact that it consists of ~ 70% ... But it's not an "individual journey" to our psychology, it has nothing to do but questions concrete type: does the subject fix his calcium or not?
The journey is something else. For example, does the subject feel responsible enough to know that to fix his calcium, he will need to exercise and go a little in the sun (or eat carrots) ... And ultimately, will he have the spring that it takes to integrate it into his culture of life ...

It is because the subject that is defended is not even fully known. So nobody will mystify us by making us swallow it! Not because we have to question the action that results from it, but again: because THIS IS NOT A PRIORITY (to read what Dedelco wrote in one sentence, is already enough for 99% Population...)

Makarov wrote: Then there is the bibliographic study phase and finally the replication. Personally, I am humble enough to think that we always have to learn from others and exchange with others, which is why I put these links are important to expand at first are personal and necessarily narrow field of vision. And I already said it is a quality that is missing a lot here.

Fifth confusion: let's stop decentering his own evaluation!
Makarov: Look how humble I am ... so much I learn from others!
To wish to value the "humble" part in its qualities is one thing, to pretend that the others are not on "a priori" close insult, and valid in any case not that one is humble oneself. We can note that you use near 30 times "I" et "me" in your last post, there's no more "humble" ^^
This thread at this stage, is amazing!

Makarov wrote: In addition I do not write for the moderator or friends of the modo (nothing personal Christophe) but for open-minded people with whom I can share what I do and saw that before acting out, I I had a lot of information, I met a lot of people, I trained,

Sixth confusion: we still do, and again in the syllogism! Just because one thing is true does not mean that the other is wrong!
"it is not because we do not understand that it does not work"
...but...:
"it is not because we do not understand that it necessarily works".

Makarov wrote: I am self taught in a lot of things

Seventh confusion: ... here we are, it's not a blemish! But it's not because we're self-taught that the "official way is null". But it takes time, in general we spend more time (all his time?) To go through paths that others have already traveled, we gain a lot of time ... and why not ... by returning to the 'school...!

Science is a bit like a game of lego, we assemble bricks, and as long as they hold we have at least some points of reference ... We can not throw baby with the bath water. Or you have to prove and demonstrate!
It is not agreed that because an unknown cause produces effects, the cause does not exist until it has been "highlighted" ...
It is necessary to leave the paradigm which is: to oppose the official science VS the individual research! Both have their intrinsic value (one of which is to get out of the confusion ...) ^^

Makarov wrote: I am self-taught in a lot of things but I also have study luggage, so it is to make others enjoy my experience and my discoveries. But it seems to me that before discussing a subject one has to inquire. Is it a scientific approach?

Eighth confusion: thesis, anti-thesis, synhthesis, that's the approach "ad minima" ...to begin! After we can also improve his French, but it is not mandatory, if you are a genius and do not intend to give lessons in French to stronger than you (it was just a metaphor in passing ... ) ^^

Makarov wrote: but on this subject I see only an obscure skepticism. I'm talking about something that took me years so I invite everyone to a little, I repeat, humility and watch the videos, read the texts then we can talk about knowing.

Ninth confusion: Kilkoolol, it is not necessary! Priorities are not good, no point!
What you say (we can be honest huh say!) ...) It's as if you said that your engine to tight, that we did not find oil in the housing and that you affirmed us than:
"it is the quality of the cooling water is in question because it would not have been demineralized".
"I read this elsewhere and I did personal research for ten years, inquire, go back to school ... etc"

Do not see any offense in what has been written, but you have gone astray. It's perfectly understandable - so obviously you do not persist on this path ... of course - so much the matter is arduous ... And many are having to think well ... But it was high time we tell it to you or see it for yourself. No doubt, take this into account, will enhance the value of knowledge acquired (which is not zero)

Everything that has been answered comes from nowhere other than personal research as well, it is possible to demonstrate it point by point, with references from researchers of chemists, doctors (whether they are from the seraglio or not) and field observations ...

Makarov wrote: Mr. Dedeleco quotes from Wikipedia which is anything but a scientific source lol and takes me for a child who would have discovered a new toy talking about the trace element so I invite him again to read, among other course, Dr. Binet's book quoted above and why not return to school benches that would not hurt anyone.

This is a reflection of brat who claims to know everything and pass the others for c ... huppa chups. We'll pretend we did not read it : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
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by dedeleco » 04/01/11, 01:49

The electrodes do not diffuse metal or in a colloidal form, this metal passes in the form of energy in the water thus in vibratory form. (no danger, therefore)

this statement is scientifically false and moreover very dangerous and may be enough to explain your sick state as a dog initially
At the beginning or I started drinking I was sick as a dog for two weeks over a cold méega bronchitis.


Indeed many non-noble metals with water are attacked and release ions in the water that can be very toxic (even the copper that kills the bacteria like Legionnaire's disease) and with time the oxide partially protects them !! !


Finally, be careful, you seem to have had more health problems than me, grandfather, and this kind of considerations with no thorough scientific confirmations and articles published and analyzed and taken up a lot of times can be very dangerous !!!

Jeanne Rousseau who tells his life in 21 videos, presents no written articles accurate, clear, and reproduced all over the world by all scientists !!
It seems perfectly unknown scientifically outside the esoteric sites !!
not a single scientific article referenced on wikipedia in French:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Rousseau
Finally on international wikipedia, English, German Russian, Chinese, a perfect unknown !!!
Same for Marcel Violet !!!


A proven scientific discovery is taking place on the scale of our entire planet !!


Finally as it is impossible to find a clear, precise article, it is completely impossible to reproduce and verify!


Finally on
Wikipedia which is anything but a scientific source lol

each article is discussed, verified, full of other articles in reference to read and to verify on the real scientific subjects by crosschecking with the publications on a worldwide scale in very many languages ​​!!
So makharov is anything but scientific and I advise to be wary of the kind of charlatans he boasts, in crosscutting all claims on a global scale, as one must do for any medication by looking at the many opinions and if the drug is banned in other countries, as the Mediator banned everywhere except France !!!
The makharov considerations do not exist elsewhere than in France and that in esoteric circles with smoky reasoning !!

The difficulty is that the scientific method is not instinctive in humans contrary to religious beliefs !!
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by Makarov » 04/01/11, 10:00

My poor Dedeleco go see this site:
http://www.effervesciences.com/index.html
You will hear about the symposium organized by the association H2O on water gathering the greatest water specialists and which I participate as curious and eager to know new (which is unfortunately not your case) since 2005 and yes jeanne rousseau really exists as well as Louis-Claude Vincent. But a question puzzles me? With you listen to these conferences are you interested in these works of ways to be able to criticize it?
For DedeleCo (when we look for someone, find out!):
(Mrs. Jeanne ROUSSEAU (born in 1915), Doctor in Pharmacy
She was born on 1 ° February 1915 in Bourgneuf en Retz (Loire Atlantique)
1935 / 1939 Studies in pharmacy in Nantes.
1937 / 1939 Internal at the Hotel Dieu de Nantes
1938 Certificate of phytopharmacy in Strasbourg
1940 / 1946, Pharmacist in Candé (49)
1942 Beginning research in water quality, electrolytes seawater ...
1945 PhD thesis in pharmacy at the Faculty of Paris
(3 Years of research)
1956, Meeting with LC Vincent who gives him a Bio-Electronimeter
for his work.
1959, Publications of his research with those of Dr. Babin and Martin in
"Hospital week".
1960, Publications of 3 Years of Research on Soils, in The Pharmacist of the West, articles reprinted by
«GEBB news»
Publications of research on the cosmo-terrestrial effects in agriculture and for predicting eruptions
volcanic (Agadir, chile)
1961/1963 Abandonment of the pharmacy and creation of a research company "CERBEL" with LC Vincent in Avrillé
1964, Presentation on the cosmic origin of the great terrestrial natural disasters published in the journal de
"Comparative geomorphology" of the University of Strasbourg.
1967, Publication of an article in the journal "Nature et Progrès": Pitié pour notre Terre.
1971 / 1979 Mayor of Bourgneuf en Retz.
1977, Jeanne Rousseau has been promoted to Knight in the Order of Academic Palms.
1980 Jeanne Rousseau is actively retired
1983, Publication of a talk in "La vie naturelle N ° 75": The dynamics of water, from the worship of sources to
hydromassage techniques.
1988, Publication of a document in "L 'info du GEBB": Water, air, food, factors of degeneration.
1989, After the death of LC Vincent, she founded the Association for Research and Application in Bio-physics
and in Bio-Electronics, (ARABBE), with a group of researchers including Pierre Fougerousse, José Giralt-
Conzalès, T. Lancereau, Y. Lerisson, Andrée Less, Joseph Orzagh, Pierre Vincent, ...
1990 / 1994, Publication of a series of articles devoted to the water, the measurements of Bio-Electronics, the Dynamics of the
Vivant in "La science du Vivant", with fritz A. Pop, J. Orzagh, Edmond Bussat, ...
1997 Internships on Bioelectronics and Agriculture at the School of Agrobiology of Beaujeu, with Gabriel Viaud.
1998, the ARABBE becomes the association of Bio - Electronique (ABE), president J. Rousseau.
Bioelectronics is a science universally recognized and applied worldwide, except in France.
It is and continues to be the tool par excellence to translate all the real causes that are at the origin of
diseases of cellular dysfunction of all living beings,
It is the confirmation of the work of Antoine Béchamp and Claude Bernard who affirmed: "What does nature matter?
of the microbe, only the state of the ground counts. "
Without it, the understanding of the nutritional process of living beings, its mode of operation can only
stay random.)
These works as well as those of Louis-Claude Vincent are indeed little known just like those of René Quiton who was nevertheless an aviation pioneer in addition to having been the French Darwin and received a national funeral and yet his work is scientific. and deserves our full attention. Many inventors and researchers are not recognized by the "dogmatic" scientific community and yet their work contributes to all: Pons and Fleichman on cold fusion Dr. Gernez on stem cells and the cure of Cancer, their work is hushed up because that they disturb (just like the pantone at the origin of the creation of this forum) and it goes by the wayside even if more than 250 laboratory have successfully reproduced their experiments and that every year there are advanced in this field to realize with means of fortunes (cf the congress of Sochi this summer). As I speak Russian, I can tell you that the ideas and works of the people to whom I refer find an interest and application in Russia, even if they remain marginal for lack of financial means and public recognition. No one is a prophet in the country proof Professor Montagnier has just left for China or they provide him with all the facilities to resume the work of Benveniste (because Americans like Monsanto who have understood the financial interest they could fired have long invested in labs with results) while in France it is important not to talk about it if you cut the credits. So if this is your conception of science I call it dogma, religion and belief and Charlatan for me it's you!
For me the true scientist is not the one of today with these dogmas it is that of field, experimentation, it is what I do and I share with my like the results just as I was doing at the creation of this forum but the spirit to change well since there are now Censors and Inquisitors with the mind completely closed and narrow who looks at the world by a mouse hole and in addition who pretend scientists quoting me Wikipedia the source least on of the world since everyone can write anything MDR! (I used enough wikipedia in BTS and our trainers have sufficiently indicated that it was not a reliable scientific source to put in doubt in its use here)
Calling me a “grandfather” when I had serious health problems is not very smart of you and shows your lack of humanity and capacity for empathy. Your hardened scientific heart must have solidified into an iron block incapable of emotions and resentment with the world around you and places you in the incapacity to understand nothing, to be able to take the height and to take an interest in yourself. what is beyond you and unknown to you.
For my initial affirmation on the electrodes it is right and has been experimentally verified: gold to diffuse into electro-vibrated water or (energize) Violet from an electrode carefully weigh, the logic that the quantity of gold is found in the water it was to perform a precise dosage without being able to highlight the presence of gold in a physical way. the water was sealed. It is only three months later that when returning to the laboratory that the bottle is tinged with red orange. They concluded that gold had always been present but in the form of energy (E = MC2 I think?). The experience dating back to the sixties, realize at the Polytechnic school in 1957:
after 2h is missing 0.00053g
4h "0.00073g
6h "0.00093g
8h "0.00106g
10h "0.00109g
then the weight of the electrode remains unchanged
negative result to gold reagents
On the other hand pH rh2 and resistivity are deeply modified.
I'm sorry for you that you did not know these works as well as those of Professor Pagot (nuclear physicist of the sixties) The scholar René Barthélemy, the general sabatier and other I can not mention them all and especially that it does not you ask no questions and do not give you want to understand precisely you who need so much to understand and explain.
The relative experience and note:
scientific society of Hygième Alimentaire "biological study on non-toxicity prepared by the Violet process" study published on February 25, 1957 followed by a 2nd on "the biological activity of Violet water on deficient animals".
Extract from the bulletin of the National Academy of Medicine
122eme year, third series, t. 142, 23 and 24 sessions of 1er and 8 July 1958 p.624 and 625
"Report on electro-vibratory water treatment"

Personally I wondered about this for several years and it is because my research meeting and exchange gave me answers and explanations that I decided to test myself this device and that I come back my experience I am I left A point of health and vitality to be now at a different point B and positive thanks to the vitalized water that I consume.
The problem with your type of science is that it neglects the parameters that bothers it and therefore ends up being completely disconnected from reality. Your model can work even if it takes at least some time.
In Reims, for example, my hometown of the Jesuit Museum (so-called) is an ancient clock in which the earth is in the middle of the planetary system and which provides for the displacement of celestial bodies and remarkable cosmic phenomena. The model correctly predicts the events (it is still old) or it is false since it would seem that it is the sun which is in the center of the system (I am not sure, in bad scientist that I am, I do not did not go check myself !!!!!) lol!
: Mrgreen:
So, find your humanity, your scientific curiosity, interest in things that you do not understand and that is beyond you and the world may be better!
What makes me laugh the most is that it is I who passed a BTS in organic farming, which makes me explain, as a child, the role of copper and micronutrients in health and their danger (By the way, have you already produced a writing in a scientific journal?). This shows your total inability to communicate with people who are different from you and how much you must be imbued with your person. Because you do not have to read correctly what I write or your brain has to make a sacred sort and a distortion of what I write.
I note also that you handle with perfection the manipulation denounced by Christophe since you take sentences out of context shamelessly to attack my experience report. Rather than take the opportunity to look at something surprising, you prefer to lose your time and lose mine.
I did not wish to have this kind of fruitless discussion which will have made us waste time each one of my precious time to remain at the same point on your side.
But I'm used to your speech, it's the one I meet from conventional farmers who are so engulfed and involved for so many years in their chemical scheme that to recognize that their soil is biologically dead and that Another way of doing things works, with results just as good as theirs in production (the nutritional and sanitary taste quality and more) that would be shot in the foot. This is also the same reaction when I present Pantones, BRF or Electroculture. It is thanks to people such as you that this world goes right in the wall.
I would love to arouse curiosity and scientific interest rather than this animosity that is really the same as that received by the Pantone at the beginning.
The publications and sources cited do not even deign to interest you.
The bottom interests you more than the form, sorry not to be at your level. I studied in the technique and I worked 10 years in the world of workers and still I manage to discuss with the censors messenger. By cons you take my cynicism to the first degree and it's quite funny.

So, I do not think I was insulting. it's my work and my experience that have been insulted since the beginning of my post by calling me a charlatan. For my part, I bring information and help around me by my different experiences. My relatives are grateful to me (even if they do not always understand what I'm talking about). This is important to me. I am appreciated for who I am, a human being despite my flaws and clumsiness, which I consider a quality and seems to be lacking here. So I think that despite all these years of registration at this forum, which was really a breath of fresh air for me at the time of the discovery of Pantone (Do you remember Christophe? At the time you were a legend and a model that every hacker read) 2001, I will not publish anything here seen the unfriendly and sufficient welcome of the few people who make the font of the spirit that reminds me of a certain period in the USSR elsewhere.
This time, I put enough sources and publications. Thank you for reading them (which should take some time) before treating me as a charlatant !!
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by dedeleco » 04/01/11, 13:29

Fun makharov gets upset and can not read:
Calling me a “grandfather” when I had serious health problems is not very smart of you and shows your lack of humanity and capacity for empathy.

while dedeleco, I wrote:
you seem to have had more health problems than me, grandfather,

and that the grandfather without serious health problem, it's me, not you.
If you read the muddy studies as you read my writings, reading the opposite of what is written, this is enough to aggravate your health problems!
I advise you selflessly again to be wary of all kinds of muddy advice and reread and apply carefully what I wrote:
Finally, be careful, you seem to have had more health problems than me, grandfather, and this kind of considerations with no thorough scientific confirmations and articles published and analyzed and picked up a lot of times can be very dangerous !!!
I advise to be wary of the kind of charlatans that he boasts, by cross-referencing all claims on a global scale, as we must do for any medication by looking at the many reviews and if the drug is banned in other countries, as the Mediator banned everywhere except France!

I would not be surprised your health problems have been aggravated by the lack of thorough scientific verification of the value of what you are taking or follow !!!

Finally your only verifiable argument is:
For my initial affirmation on the electrodes it is right and has been experimentally verified: gold to diffuse into electro-vibrated water or (energize) Violet from an electrode carefully weigh, the logic that the quantity of gold is found in the water it was to perform a precise dosage without being able to highlight the presence of gold in a physical way. the water was sealed. It is only three months later that when returning to the laboratory that the bottle is tinged with red orange. They concluded that gold had always been present but in the form of energy (E = MC2 I think?). The experience dating back to the sixties, realize at the Polytechnic school in 1957:
after 2h is missing 0.00053g
4h "0.00073g
6h "0.00093g
8h "0.00106g
10h "0.00109g
then the weight of the electrode remains unchanged
negative result to gold reagents
On the other hand pH rh2 and resistivity are deeply modified.
I'm sorry for you that you did not know these works as well as those of Professor Pagot (nuclear physicist of the sixties) The scholar René Barthélemy, the general sabatier and other I can not mention them all and especially that it does not you ask no questions and do not give you want to understand precisely you who need so much to understand and explain.
The relative experience and note:
scientific society of Hygième Alimentaire "biological study on non-toxicity prepared by the Violet process" study published on February 25, 1957 followed by a 2nd on "the biological activity of Violet water on deficient animals".
Extract from the bulletin of the National Academy of Medicine
122eme year, third series, t. 142, 23 and 24 sessions of 1er and 8 July 1958 p.624 and 625
"Report on electro-vibratory water treatment"

with no other checking since 1957, nor thorough analysis of all possible sources of error, before going into bizarre theories like;
http://www.effervesciences.com/index.html
!!!
I have no way to get this article from 1957, nor can I find articles about this experience !!!!!

Finally I answer you, unlike 99999 / 100000 other scientists who do not waste their time in experiments full of errors and artifacts.
Personally, I have no way of verifying these claims, especially the modern analytical material needed to clear up the errors.
To see the armada of articles on the cold fusion of any bizarre natures, for more than 20 years, it is extremely difficult to solve and eliminate the possible errors, already without biological effect.
It's a huge job still unresolved, but it's clear that swindlers take advantage for exploit the credulity of people with all kinds of gear and expensive muddy drugs promising miracles never confirmed !!

Example at the moment drugs almost useless but dangerous, on TV news (after the pick) like fonsilane for the veins, then that walking is much more effective !!!
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by Obamot » 04/01/11, 16:59

: Shock: Absolutely safe thing Dedelco, as you point out Makharov is in great danger from his obnubiliation / personal obstinacy. He said it clearly, his health is threatened. And alas for him he refuses to be "enlightened" on certain points, nor even to "enlighten himself". There seems to be nothing left to do to reach out to someone who gives the impression of "having science for him".
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