Although the majority of the Canadian population is against the slaughter of baby seals on its soil, the Canadian government and the fishing industries refuse to stop this butchery ...
At the end of the hunt, over 300 000 seals have died in order to supplement their fine people who hunt them to sell their skins !!
To document you:
http://www.geocities.com/protectionanimale/seals.htm
http://www.notre-planete.info/actualites/actu_857.php
http://www.reseaulibre.net/rage/phoque.html
http://www.ifaw.org/ifaw/general/defaul ... oid=160962
http://www.chasse-aux-phoques.com/
(Without wanting to sensationalism, images or videos can sometimes be quite violent ...)
He currently is a turning point, the Canadian government has just adopted a new premier and a new ruling party, with enough pressure, they could change that ...
It is time to ACT:
The Petition Site
petition chasse-aux-phoques.com
Petition 30 million friends
You are not obliged to sign the three ... but it's better ;-)
@ soon
baby seals: knowledge say STOP !!!
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Re: he need to say STOP !!!
[quote = "Forumecolo "] Although the majority of the Canadian population is against the massacre of baby seals on its soil, the Canadian government and the fishing industries refuse to put an end to this butchery ...
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Why abolish the seal hunt?-
to help cod fishermen who are bankrupt ????
- For families still lose revenue?
You believe that people of the Islands are rich idiots who kill seals just for fun ??????
Quebec "environmentalists" are agreed with the seal hunt. I understand evil that can intervene in a survival activity for a population of fishermen practice this hunt for a hundred years at least ....
Hunting small harp seals (pups) and small hooded seal (blueback) is prohibited - and have been since 1987. The Marine Mammal Regulations prohibit the trade, sale or barter of the fur of these pups. Moreover, it is forbidden to hunt seals in breeding or calving and young seals must be weaned, autonomous and independent.
Myth The club - or the hakapik - is a barbaric instrument that has no place in today's world.
Reality: The Royal Commission on Seals and Sealing industry has focused on hunting methods and concluded that the hunting club, when practiced correctly, is not more cruel, and is often even less cruel, the killing methods used in commercial slaughterhouses, which are accepted by the majority of the population.
Seal hunters have been using clubs since the beginning of the hunt hundreds of years ago. Norwegian hunters are behind the hakapik and found it very effective. US studies between 1969 and 1972 have shown that the club (or hakapik) is an effective weapon to kill the animal quickly and humane. In a report published in September 2002 in the Canadian Veterinary Journal, results similar to these findings were presented.
Myth: The Canadian government allows sealers to kill thousands of seals to help the recovery of cod stocks.
Reality: Several factors contributed to hamper the recovery of cod stocks, the fishing, the poor physical condition of the fish, low growth and environmental change.
In addition, there is considerable uncertainty in estimating the amount of fish consumed by seals. The commercial quota hunting is based on sound conservation principles, not on recovery of groundfish stocks.
Myth: The hunt is unsustainable and endangers the population of harp seals.
Reality: Since 1960 years, animal rights groups say the seal hunt is not sustainable. In fact, the harp seal population is healthy and abundant. According to a survey in 2004, the harp seal herd in the Northwest Atlantic, which now has about 5,8 million people, has almost tripled since the 1970 years.
DFO sets quotas to ensure the health and abundance of seal herds. Seals - and harp seals in particular - are far from "endangered".
Myth: hunters such low income that the seal hunt is not a viable industry.
Reality: living memory, sealing of 2005 was one of the most profitable. Given the favorable market conditions in 2005, the landed value of the harp seal has exceeded 16,5 million.
Seals are a significant source of income for some hunters and for thousands of families in Eastern Canada, at a time of year when other fishing options are limited at least in remote coastal communities. Sealing also creates employment opportunities in the area of purchasing and processing plants.
Myth: The majority of Canadians oppose the seal hunt.
Reality: The groups of animals currently campaigning against the seal hunt cite the Ipsos-Reid survey of 2004 that most Canadians are opposed to hunting. In fact, Canadians support federal policies on the seal hunt. An Ipsos-Reid survey conducted in February 2005 concludes that 60% of Canadians are in favor of a responsible hunt.
Harp:
This abundant species is separated into three populations, the most important is that the Northwest Atlantic stock located off Canada. Harp seal population is healthy and abundant. Since 1970, it has almost tripled to 5,2 million people according to the latest survey in 1999 and approved by peers.
Canada has the defect of not defend its interests when spreading lies for over 30 years on the seal hunt ....
Have you ever visit a slaughterhouse in your country? go ahead and take pictures you will see a reality that nobody is concerned because it is less impressive than a seal bleeding on the ice ... ..
I speak knowingly, I worked 10 years in all kinds of slaughterhouses .... See you then redo your comment !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The leather you use, it comes from where ?????
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Why abolish the seal hunt?-
to help cod fishermen who are bankrupt ????
- For families still lose revenue?
You believe that people of the Islands are rich idiots who kill seals just for fun ??????
Quebec "environmentalists" are agreed with the seal hunt. I understand evil that can intervene in a survival activity for a population of fishermen practice this hunt for a hundred years at least ....
Hunting small harp seals (pups) and small hooded seal (blueback) is prohibited - and have been since 1987. The Marine Mammal Regulations prohibit the trade, sale or barter of the fur of these pups. Moreover, it is forbidden to hunt seals in breeding or calving and young seals must be weaned, autonomous and independent.
Myth The club - or the hakapik - is a barbaric instrument that has no place in today's world.
Reality: The Royal Commission on Seals and Sealing industry has focused on hunting methods and concluded that the hunting club, when practiced correctly, is not more cruel, and is often even less cruel, the killing methods used in commercial slaughterhouses, which are accepted by the majority of the population.
Seal hunters have been using clubs since the beginning of the hunt hundreds of years ago. Norwegian hunters are behind the hakapik and found it very effective. US studies between 1969 and 1972 have shown that the club (or hakapik) is an effective weapon to kill the animal quickly and humane. In a report published in September 2002 in the Canadian Veterinary Journal, results similar to these findings were presented.
Myth: The Canadian government allows sealers to kill thousands of seals to help the recovery of cod stocks.
Reality: Several factors contributed to hamper the recovery of cod stocks, the fishing, the poor physical condition of the fish, low growth and environmental change.
In addition, there is considerable uncertainty in estimating the amount of fish consumed by seals. The commercial quota hunting is based on sound conservation principles, not on recovery of groundfish stocks.
Myth: The hunt is unsustainable and endangers the population of harp seals.
Reality: Since 1960 years, animal rights groups say the seal hunt is not sustainable. In fact, the harp seal population is healthy and abundant. According to a survey in 2004, the harp seal herd in the Northwest Atlantic, which now has about 5,8 million people, has almost tripled since the 1970 years.
DFO sets quotas to ensure the health and abundance of seal herds. Seals - and harp seals in particular - are far from "endangered".
Myth: hunters such low income that the seal hunt is not a viable industry.
Reality: living memory, sealing of 2005 was one of the most profitable. Given the favorable market conditions in 2005, the landed value of the harp seal has exceeded 16,5 million.
Seals are a significant source of income for some hunters and for thousands of families in Eastern Canada, at a time of year when other fishing options are limited at least in remote coastal communities. Sealing also creates employment opportunities in the area of purchasing and processing plants.
Myth: The majority of Canadians oppose the seal hunt.
Reality: The groups of animals currently campaigning against the seal hunt cite the Ipsos-Reid survey of 2004 that most Canadians are opposed to hunting. In fact, Canadians support federal policies on the seal hunt. An Ipsos-Reid survey conducted in February 2005 concludes that 60% of Canadians are in favor of a responsible hunt.
Harp:
This abundant species is separated into three populations, the most important is that the Northwest Atlantic stock located off Canada. Harp seal population is healthy and abundant. Since 1970, it has almost tripled to 5,2 million people according to the latest survey in 1999 and approved by peers.
Canada has the defect of not defend its interests when spreading lies for over 30 years on the seal hunt ....
Have you ever visit a slaughterhouse in your country? go ahead and take pictures you will see a reality that nobody is concerned because it is less impressive than a seal bleeding on the ice ... ..
I speak knowingly, I worked 10 years in all kinds of slaughterhouses .... See you then redo your comment !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The leather you use, it comes from where ?????
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Re: he need to say STOP !!!
bojourvous5094 wrote:Why abolish the seal hunt?-
to help cod fishermen who are bankrupt ????
The question is: why can not catch cod?
Also because they have abused quotats, and that this animal must be protected now, the World poisssons stock collapsed, and many other species must be protected, do not forget that it is also that the fish and marine mammals that live in their element must feed also. That humans eat less fish for a few spent decades will not be a drama
- For families still lose revenue?
You believe that people of the Islands are rich idiots who kill seals just for fun ??????
Inuit hunt seals for personal needs, for the whole year, they do not traffiquent pieces of seals, as just some viscera and penis are said to be aphrodisiacs, and sold at exorbitant prices in Japan while the rest is discharged to the water by some hunters who have only the name, but which are in reality smugglers. The truth is that this hunt is absolutely neither monitored nor regulated in depth
Quebec "environmentalists" are agreed with the seal hunt. I understand evil that can intervene in a survival activity for a population of fishermen practice this hunt for a hundred years at least ....
Hunting gains ..... this hunt is very new for Canadian, compared to that practiced for millennia by the Inuit. And it surprised me that environmentalists would agree with this hunt ..... unless you BRING proof
Hunting small harp seals (pups) and small hooded seal (blueback) is prohibited - and have been since 1987. The Marine Mammal Regulations prohibit the trade, sale or barter of the fur of these pups. Moreover, it is forbidden to hunt seals in breeding or calving and young seals must be weaned, autonomous and independent.
There is obviously there, sworn people who watch closely that this law dating back to 1987 be strictly applied?
Myth The club - or the hakapik - is a barbaric instrument that has no place in today's world.
Reality: The Royal Commission on Seals and Sealing industry has focused on hunting methods and concluded that the hunting club, when practiced correctly, is not more cruel, and is often even less cruel, the killing methods used in commercial slaughterhouses, which are accepted by the majority of the population.
Ethics? MJ Eford, member of the Canadian parliament: "I want to see these 6 million seals (...) killed or sold, or destroyed or burned more we kill, the more I'll be happy." (Quotation date 1998).
Myth: The Canadian government allows sealers to kill thousands of seals to help the recovery of cod stocks.
Reality: Several factors contributed to hamper the recovery of cod stocks, the fishing, the poor physical condition of the fish, low growth and environmental change.
these intensive hunting campaigns have already cost the Canadian taxpayers 20.000.000 Canadian dollars in 7 years! Hunters are sponsored by the taxpayer?
Dr. Lavigne is an internationally renowned expert in the field of marine mammals, he studied harp since 30 years. "Combine the lack of ice with the seal hunt could result in the loss of almost all babies born this year in the Gulf and perhaps also on the Front." "It makes no sense to hunt harp seals when it is clear that a large percentage of babies die due to poor ice conditions. We must act cautiously, "confirmed Dr. Lavigne.
Should we still go against the advice of experts?
In addition, there is considerable uncertainty in estimating the amount of fish consumed by seals. The commercial quota hunting is based on sound conservation principles, not on recovery of groundfish stocks.
5 million seals for how many human inhabitants in Canada and Greenland? Should it be seals that are forced to be killed, another species that is majority can take it easy?
Myth: The hunt is unsustainable and endangers the population of harp seals.
Reality: Since 1960 years, animal rights groups say the seal hunt is not sustainable. In fact, the harp seal population is healthy and abundant. According to a survey in 2004, the harp seal herd in the Northwest Atlantic, which now has about 5,8 million people, has almost tripled since the 1970 years.
Actually it's not sustainable, since it has to stop
"The whelping harp seals and the first months of baby's life depends on the stability of the ice shelf. If the ice does not cover the usual surface or when it is exceptionally fine, parturition and breastfeeding are dramatically compromised and a large number of seal pups die, "Dr. David Lavigne said
DFO sets quotas to ensure the health and abundance of seal herds. Seals - and harp seals in particular - are far from "endangered".
Myth: hunters such low income that the seal hunt is not a viable industry.
What is today statement will be another reality tomorrow
Reality: living memory, sealing of 2005 was one of the most profitable. Given the favorable market conditions in 2005, the landed value of the harp seal has exceeded 16,5 million.
I guess everyone can also endorse the killing of elephants for their ivory, which reported much more than 16 million
Seals are a significant source of income for some hunters and for thousands of families in Eastern Canada, at a time of year when other fishing options are limited at least in remote coastal communities. Sealing also creates employment opportunities in the area of purchasing and processing plants.
If the seals do not exist can legitimately wonder what jobs would occupy all these people?
Myth: The majority of Canadians oppose the seal hunt
Reality: The groups of animals currently campaigning against the seal hunt cite the Ipsos-Reid survey of 2004 that most Canadians are opposed to hunting. In fact, Canadians support federal policies on the seal hunt. An Ipsos-Reid survey conducted in February 2005 concludes that 60% of Canadians are in favor of a responsible hunt.
On the one responsible hunting we are in agreement, but it is not. Only seals killed and skinned are recognized, those who left to die elsewhere are not, and they greatly increase the quotats. But it's obviously in your copy / paste is not said
Harp:
This abundant species is separated into three populations, the most important is that the Northwest Atlantic stock located off Canada. Harp seal population is healthy and abundant. Since 1970, it has almost tripled to 5,2 million people according to the latest survey in 1999 and approved by peers.
It lacks an important parameter: the lack of ice, it will take into account, because it melts more and more, and seals will go elsewhere .... unless Canadians make an effort for their greenhouse gas
Canada has the defect of not defend its interests when spreading lies for over 30 years on the seal hunt ....
Italy has temporarily suspended the import of skins and products derived from seals
In January 2006, Mexico banned the import and export of all marine mammals (including seals) and their derived products
Greenland orders his public company not to trade in seal skins from the Canadian seal hunt
the Dutch Parliament is launching a bill to ban the import / export and marketing
of seal products
In May 2004, the Belgian government adopts a proposal loivisant to prohibit import / export and marketing of products of all seals
The Council of Europe adopted in 2004 a Motion for Resolution (at the initiative of M.Azzolini MP) to stop the commercial seal hunt and requested Member States to introduce national bans on derivatives seals
Have you ever visit a slaughterhouse in your country? go ahead and take pictures you will see a reality that nobody is concerned because it is less impressive than a seal bleeding on the ice ... ..
The times are changing
Brussels, January 23 2006
Improved well-being of animals: adoption of an action plan of the European Union
The Commission today adopted a new action plan to improve the protection and welfare of animals over the next five years. Concrete measures which this plan is composed aim to ensure that in the future, the issue of animal welfare will be processed as efficiently as possible in all community sectors and in the context of relations with third countries. Five main areas of action were defined for the 2006-2010 period: upgrading minimum standards for the well-being of animals, promoting research and alternative methods to animal testing, introduction of welfare indicators be standardized, better information for professionals and the public on the issues of animal welfare and finally supporting international initiatives for animal protection. For each area, a complete and an indicative timetable of the initiatives contained in the action plan and in the impact assessment and the Commission working document accompanying it.
http://europa.eu.int/rapid/pressRelease ... anguage=fr
I speak knowingly, I worked 10 years in all kinds of slaughterhouses .... See you then redo your comment !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comments are all on the websites of associations of animal rights
The leather that you use, it is from where ????? :?:
It will ask those wearing leather or have leather accessories ..... for me it's not
En conclusion
Once again, man exploits the living in unacceptable conditions for purely financial reasons and futile
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Re: he need to say STOP !!!
Inuit hunt seals for personal needs, for the whole year, they do not trafiquent pieces of seals, as just some viscera and penis are said to be aphrodisiacs, and sold at exorbitant prices in Japan while the rest is discharged to the water by some hunters who have only the name, but which are in reality smugglers. ___________________________________________________
Inuit hunt seals for their own use and purpose of the "artisanal" hunting is the same except that you affirm that all hunters are "evil traffickers," I guess you are the "good" that defend Bambi ....
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Hunting gains ..... this hunt is very new for Canadian, compared to that practiced for millennia by the Inuit. And it surprised me that environmentalists would agree with this hunt ..... unless you BRING proof__________________________________________________
Hunting has always existed in Canada. It has always been part of our livelihood ... Since the white man landed here, it always has been ...
Greenpeace has helped small-scale seal hunt to avoid exploitation by companies that have razed the flock ... in the 1975 years ...
In Quebec, environmentalists agree with the management of this ecosystem ...
But you mix sustainable management and moral principles ...
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Socioeconomic Profile - Municipality of Îles-de-la-Madeleine
Despite the brutal changes to the airline industry over the past decade fishing remains and, unless unforeseen events, still remain the main occupation of the people living on the islands. Aquaculture is, moreover, a market of the future. The two local producers released in about 2002 500 000 pounds of blue mussels. The breeding and seeding scallop, made on an experimental basis since 1990, have given way to the commercial phase and the results are encouraging. The level of catches of seals in 1997 almost reached that of 1980 and the industry is currently under reconstruction.
The Islanders welcome annually about 54 000 100 visitors and more small businesses are directly dependent on the tourism industry. In 2002, the economic benefits were estimated at 42 million. Furthermore, over the past twenty years, many of the inhabitants of the Islands find work in public services and para-public (federal and provincial administration, education and health).
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5 million seals for how many human inhabitants in Canada and Greenland? Should it be seals that are forced to be killed, another species that is majority can take it easy?_____________________
Workforce: 6,620 people work ...
Agriculture, forestry, fishing, hunting = 1,050 jobs
Personal income / capita = 2004 19,346. (Canadian dollars.)
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Note: in Quebec 2005
Land area = 1,312,126 km
Inhabitants = 7,598,146
This gives a fair view on the ground monitoring for hunting without relying on the sea ... reporting to Canada ...
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Let's talk about whaling
We are developing a tourist industry around whale watching while Japan and others are in the process of emptying the ocean floor ... I have a lot more problems with these mammals to extinction we are trying to protect, including belugas of the St. Lawrence ....
But that's not enough paying for your CLUB ???????
You are afraid of Japan and friends ????
Bullfights in Spain where we bleed to death for fun, you do not touch it .... This lasts for years and is even ... ben correct. This is far from ... for subsistence.
I have a suggestion for you ....
Why do not you ask Canada to carry the seals in a more civilized country we have a small surplus of 350,000 3 animals to 5 years. I sure that Canada would be pleased to offer you if you'll come and pick you pay for deal ... A little ecosystem management would do you the most good because you know exactly what must do….
Here the inhabitants are traffickers so act quickly, otherwise the herd will rise around 8 million seals and it is more than inhabitants ....
We already have 6 million pigs on our land, Managed by companies that export most of their stock and have to account to anyone, because they have " right to produce "......... I pass over the beautiful mess in which we are, if you can help by ridding us I would be extremely grateful !!!!!!!!!!!
I also have a LNG port that wants to install some 10 kilometers from my home to be better ... Meanwhile on the other side of the city I have the biggest oil refinery in Quebec wants its pipeline nothing less ... what ... the little details.
Reporting to know what Quebecers say on the seal hunt:
available 2 months
See report of March 3 2006 The report 3e
http://www.radio-canada.ca/actualite/v2/simondurivage/
Inuit hunt seals for their own use and purpose of the "artisanal" hunting is the same except that you affirm that all hunters are "evil traffickers," I guess you are the "good" that defend Bambi ....
__________________________________________________
Hunting gains ..... this hunt is very new for Canadian, compared to that practiced for millennia by the Inuit. And it surprised me that environmentalists would agree with this hunt ..... unless you BRING proof__________________________________________________
Hunting has always existed in Canada. It has always been part of our livelihood ... Since the white man landed here, it always has been ...
Greenpeace has helped small-scale seal hunt to avoid exploitation by companies that have razed the flock ... in the 1975 years ...
In Quebec, environmentalists agree with the management of this ecosystem ...
But you mix sustainable management and moral principles ...
___________________________________
Socioeconomic Profile - Municipality of Îles-de-la-Madeleine
Despite the brutal changes to the airline industry over the past decade fishing remains and, unless unforeseen events, still remain the main occupation of the people living on the islands. Aquaculture is, moreover, a market of the future. The two local producers released in about 2002 500 000 pounds of blue mussels. The breeding and seeding scallop, made on an experimental basis since 1990, have given way to the commercial phase and the results are encouraging. The level of catches of seals in 1997 almost reached that of 1980 and the industry is currently under reconstruction.
The Islanders welcome annually about 54 000 100 visitors and more small businesses are directly dependent on the tourism industry. In 2002, the economic benefits were estimated at 42 million. Furthermore, over the past twenty years, many of the inhabitants of the Islands find work in public services and para-public (federal and provincial administration, education and health).
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5 million seals for how many human inhabitants in Canada and Greenland? Should it be seals that are forced to be killed, another species that is majority can take it easy?_____________________
Workforce: 6,620 people work ...
Agriculture, forestry, fishing, hunting = 1,050 jobs
Personal income / capita = 2004 19,346. (Canadian dollars.)
________________________________
Note: in Quebec 2005
Land area = 1,312,126 km
Inhabitants = 7,598,146
This gives a fair view on the ground monitoring for hunting without relying on the sea ... reporting to Canada ...
___________________________________
Let's talk about whaling
We are developing a tourist industry around whale watching while Japan and others are in the process of emptying the ocean floor ... I have a lot more problems with these mammals to extinction we are trying to protect, including belugas of the St. Lawrence ....
But that's not enough paying for your CLUB ???????
You are afraid of Japan and friends ????
Bullfights in Spain where we bleed to death for fun, you do not touch it .... This lasts for years and is even ... ben correct. This is far from ... for subsistence.
I have a suggestion for you ....
Why do not you ask Canada to carry the seals in a more civilized country we have a small surplus of 350,000 3 animals to 5 years. I sure that Canada would be pleased to offer you if you'll come and pick you pay for deal ... A little ecosystem management would do you the most good because you know exactly what must do….
Here the inhabitants are traffickers so act quickly, otherwise the herd will rise around 8 million seals and it is more than inhabitants ....
We already have 6 million pigs on our land, Managed by companies that export most of their stock and have to account to anyone, because they have " right to produce "......... I pass over the beautiful mess in which we are, if you can help by ridding us I would be extremely grateful !!!!!!!!!!!
I also have a LNG port that wants to install some 10 kilometers from my home to be better ... Meanwhile on the other side of the city I have the biggest oil refinery in Quebec wants its pipeline nothing less ... what ... the little details.
Reporting to know what Quebecers say on the seal hunt:
available 2 months
See report of March 3 2006 The report 3e
http://www.radio-canada.ca/actualite/v2/simondurivage/
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Hello
It lacks an important parameter: the lack of ice, it will take into account, because it melts more and more, and seals will go elsewhere .... unless Canadians make an effort for their greenhouse gases ] [/ Quote]
Nature naturally balance without the hand of man
When there was a lot of ice, the polar bear were predators of seals and seals are predators of fish all the machine were in balance (the white man) to start killing the bear, overfishing, and now it changes temperature.
it does not come that concentrations of populations are unevenly distributed on the earth?
I believe that you do not miss air for us show the example on the effort to make on the effect of greenhouse
If one takes into account the area of Quebec, if we measure the releases of poluants therein product I think we are in the head Pelton regarding quality conditions of the environment.
Now if we put to calculate the pollution per capita, it is certain that the way in climate and isolated life that need more energy for heating, transportation and recreation ect ..
All winter I am wanders on northern lakes has Québéc Europeans see the amount of tourists who come to snowmobile or sled dog and listen to their comments on the clean air and snow and the tall pines spaces.
I'm a little surprised to hear that we sum of (large) gas producers of greenhouse gases, while the majority of homes are heated has electricity which it is made almost exclusively Hydroelectric (I do not speak from Canada
I speak of Quebec).
I may be one of the big polluters 950 liters of gasoline this winter to take a plane ride on the lakes,
but when I look all the time 2 fuel burn tourists on snowmobile ... they are not better than me ..
and as I said, diluted in this huge pine forest that is pervasive on 1000km is a goutte..d'urine in a sea.
When a hunting I'm the hunter, and as I have already said I will be when hunter moose have guns
I fed the deer in winter, come in my yard.
(They like apples)
But hunting is a tradition that comes from our orgines Quebecois and Indians.
this is part of morals, workers take their holidays in the hunting season, snow geese, moose duck ect .. the other is the fishing, normally everything is controlled and it is severe.
Whichever method one takes to kill animeaux I do not like it, yet I eat Steck, chicken and fish ..
Andre
It lacks an important parameter: the lack of ice, it will take into account, because it melts more and more, and seals will go elsewhere .... unless Canadians make an effort for their greenhouse gases ] [/ Quote]
Nature naturally balance without the hand of man
When there was a lot of ice, the polar bear were predators of seals and seals are predators of fish all the machine were in balance (the white man) to start killing the bear, overfishing, and now it changes temperature.
it does not come that concentrations of populations are unevenly distributed on the earth?
I believe that you do not miss air for us show the example on the effort to make on the effect of greenhouse
If one takes into account the area of Quebec, if we measure the releases of poluants therein product I think we are in the head Pelton regarding quality conditions of the environment.
Now if we put to calculate the pollution per capita, it is certain that the way in climate and isolated life that need more energy for heating, transportation and recreation ect ..
All winter I am wanders on northern lakes has Québéc Europeans see the amount of tourists who come to snowmobile or sled dog and listen to their comments on the clean air and snow and the tall pines spaces.
I'm a little surprised to hear that we sum of (large) gas producers of greenhouse gases, while the majority of homes are heated has electricity which it is made almost exclusively Hydroelectric (I do not speak from Canada
I speak of Quebec).
I may be one of the big polluters 950 liters of gasoline this winter to take a plane ride on the lakes,
but when I look all the time 2 fuel burn tourists on snowmobile ... they are not better than me ..
and as I said, diluted in this huge pine forest that is pervasive on 1000km is a goutte..d'urine in a sea.
When a hunting I'm the hunter, and as I have already said I will be when hunter moose have guns
I fed the deer in winter, come in my yard.
(They like apples)
But hunting is a tradition that comes from our orgines Quebecois and Indians.
this is part of morals, workers take their holidays in the hunting season, snow geese, moose duck ect .. the other is the fishing, normally everything is controlled and it is severe.
Whichever method one takes to kill animeaux I do not like it, yet I eat Steck, chicken and fish ..
Andre
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Journal of March 17 2006 PRESS
I allow myself to reproduce an article
JOURNAL PRESS MONTREAL ......
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20060 ... ACTUALITES
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Friday March 17 2006
Céline Hervieux-Payette
IN A LETTER SENT TO FAMILY OF MINNESOTA
anti-American exit from a Liberal senator
Gilles Toupin
La Presse
Ottawa
In defense of Canadian seal hunters, Liberal Senator Celine Hervieux-Payette there is a virulent case against the United States in a letter sent to a Minnesota family.
On Tuesday, the McLellan family (Ann, Pam, Nancy and Dale) announced in a letter to all members of the Canadian Senate that has canceled his vacation to Canada because of the seal hunt in Atlantic practice it describes as "horrible" and "inhumane".
In a written response, Ms. Hervieux-Payette replied that she found "horrible" it, about the United States, "it is the daily massacre of innocent people in Iraq, the execution of prisoners - mostly blacks - in American prisons, the massive sale of handguns to everyday American citizens, destabilizing the world by the aggressive foreign policy of the US government, etc. "
Ms. Hervieux-Payette has sent a copy of its response to all his colleagues in the upper chamber. "All senators received the letter of McLellan and I was the only one to meet them," she told La Presse during a telephone interview.
Direct the heart "I did not go around the bush, agreed the senator, but I think Ann McLellan understood my point of view. Enough to be lecturing the Americans! They should start watching their behavior, the permanent climbing since Bush's election of insecurity on the planet. The lady did not choose a good cause. "
In their letter to senators, the McLellan specify that they canceled a trip to Canada last year "because Canada allows the seal hunt." "We had planned a trip to Canada this year, they add, but we will cancel the trip if the inhumane seal hunting does not cease. Canada and will lose $ 8000 in tourism revenues (excluding our food expenses, gasoline and the purchase of souvenirs). In addition, we had the project of two other trips to Canada that we will not do. We spent several holidays in Canada in the past and we spent a lot of money there. "
McLellan state that they have a lot of respect for Canada since their ancestors came to this country and they live near the border. "However, the brutal seal hunt, they write, is contrary to what we love Canada." The American family asks Canada to do "what is right" by prohibiting "the horrible massacre of innocent seals ".
The Senator Hervieux-Payette also informed his American correspondents in its reply sent by email, that the seal hunt, in accordance with government policy, "is part of the basic economic activity in our coastal populations, it s 'whether indigenous or whites, and that seals are not killed for sporting reasons, contrary to what happens in the case of deer and moose. This activity to support our population in a region where they have lived for centuries. "
"Why did not she say anything about American hunters who come to kill our deer and moose in our purely sporting goal? asks Ms. Hervieux-Payette interview. We are carnivores, we eat beef, pork. Why do not we hunt seals? "
Liberal Senator concluded his letter by inviting McLellan to visit Canada again. "You'll see, she writes, that we are a human society and lives in safety, respecting the traditions of the indigenous population and do not try to impose their way of life of the whites."
In an email sent to La Presse, Ann McLellan responded yesterday in response Céline Hervieux-Payette saying she respected "animals and humans," and that's why she sent the letter to all senators . "I do not want the killing of seals, she wrote, but if it does not stop killing seals, I ask at least, I wrote to Senator Hervieux-Payette, that the euthanasia prior to slaughter. "
Some senators, Ms. Hervieux-Payette, one he expressed his support yesterday, which Senator Marcel Prud'homme Montreal. It is not known yet how the Liberal caucus will react to what Céline Hervieux-Payette. We recall that under the government of Paul Martin, the Ontario MP Carolyn Parrish was expelled from caucus for calling the bastards of Americans and have trampled during a television program a doll with the effigy of George W. Bush .
Ms. Hervieux-Payette of the output occurs while an international campaign, which involves the popular singer Paul McCartney, full swing against the seal hunt in the Gulf of St. Lawrence and on the Atlantic coast.
Day before yesterday, the new Conservative Minister of Fisheries and Oceans Loyola Hearn released the Atlantic Seal Management Plan for the period of 2006 2010 to. In 2006, the total allowable catch of harp seals was set at 325 000 beasts.
Hearn stressed that the seal herd from Greenland is important and is doing well. Its population stands at 5,8 million animals, nearly triple the population of 70 years. "
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You can see an interview with Sen.
http://www.radio-canada.ca/actualite/v2/simondurivage/
3e report of March 17 2006 .....
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http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20060 ... ACTUALITES
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Friday March 17 2006
Céline Hervieux-Payette
IN A LETTER SENT TO FAMILY OF MINNESOTA
anti-American exit from a Liberal senator
Gilles Toupin
La Presse
Ottawa
In defense of Canadian seal hunters, Liberal Senator Celine Hervieux-Payette there is a virulent case against the United States in a letter sent to a Minnesota family.
On Tuesday, the McLellan family (Ann, Pam, Nancy and Dale) announced in a letter to all members of the Canadian Senate that has canceled his vacation to Canada because of the seal hunt in Atlantic practice it describes as "horrible" and "inhumane".
In a written response, Ms. Hervieux-Payette replied that she found "horrible" it, about the United States, "it is the daily massacre of innocent people in Iraq, the execution of prisoners - mostly blacks - in American prisons, the massive sale of handguns to everyday American citizens, destabilizing the world by the aggressive foreign policy of the US government, etc. "
Ms. Hervieux-Payette has sent a copy of its response to all his colleagues in the upper chamber. "All senators received the letter of McLellan and I was the only one to meet them," she told La Presse during a telephone interview.
Direct the heart "I did not go around the bush, agreed the senator, but I think Ann McLellan understood my point of view. Enough to be lecturing the Americans! They should start watching their behavior, the permanent climbing since Bush's election of insecurity on the planet. The lady did not choose a good cause. "
In their letter to senators, the McLellan specify that they canceled a trip to Canada last year "because Canada allows the seal hunt." "We had planned a trip to Canada this year, they add, but we will cancel the trip if the inhumane seal hunting does not cease. Canada and will lose $ 8000 in tourism revenues (excluding our food expenses, gasoline and the purchase of souvenirs). In addition, we had the project of two other trips to Canada that we will not do. We spent several holidays in Canada in the past and we spent a lot of money there. "
McLellan state that they have a lot of respect for Canada since their ancestors came to this country and they live near the border. "However, the brutal seal hunt, they write, is contrary to what we love Canada." The American family asks Canada to do "what is right" by prohibiting "the horrible massacre of innocent seals ".
The Senator Hervieux-Payette also informed his American correspondents in its reply sent by email, that the seal hunt, in accordance with government policy, "is part of the basic economic activity in our coastal populations, it s 'whether indigenous or whites, and that seals are not killed for sporting reasons, contrary to what happens in the case of deer and moose. This activity to support our population in a region where they have lived for centuries. "
"Why did not she say anything about American hunters who come to kill our deer and moose in our purely sporting goal? asks Ms. Hervieux-Payette interview. We are carnivores, we eat beef, pork. Why do not we hunt seals? "
Liberal Senator concluded his letter by inviting McLellan to visit Canada again. "You'll see, she writes, that we are a human society and lives in safety, respecting the traditions of the indigenous population and do not try to impose their way of life of the whites."
In an email sent to La Presse, Ann McLellan responded yesterday in response Céline Hervieux-Payette saying she respected "animals and humans," and that's why she sent the letter to all senators . "I do not want the killing of seals, she wrote, but if it does not stop killing seals, I ask at least, I wrote to Senator Hervieux-Payette, that the euthanasia prior to slaughter. "
Some senators, Ms. Hervieux-Payette, one he expressed his support yesterday, which Senator Marcel Prud'homme Montreal. It is not known yet how the Liberal caucus will react to what Céline Hervieux-Payette. We recall that under the government of Paul Martin, the Ontario MP Carolyn Parrish was expelled from caucus for calling the bastards of Americans and have trampled during a television program a doll with the effigy of George W. Bush .
Ms. Hervieux-Payette of the output occurs while an international campaign, which involves the popular singer Paul McCartney, full swing against the seal hunt in the Gulf of St. Lawrence and on the Atlantic coast.
Day before yesterday, the new Conservative Minister of Fisheries and Oceans Loyola Hearn released the Atlantic Seal Management Plan for the period of 2006 2010 to. In 2006, the total allowable catch of harp seals was set at 325 000 beasts.
Hearn stressed that the seal herd from Greenland is important and is doing well. Its population stands at 5,8 million animals, nearly triple the population of 70 years. "
____________________________________________
You can see an interview with Sen.
http://www.radio-canada.ca/actualite/v2/simondurivage/
3e report of March 17 2006 .....
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The animal rights have replaced environmentalists
ARTICLE OF THE JOURNAL DEVOIR.COM
Seal hunting is no longer a threat
On the ice, the animal rights have replaced environmentalists
Louis-Gilles Francoeur
Wednesday edition April 7 2004
Keywords: Quebec (province), hunting seals
Not a single environmental group campaigning against the seal hunt in Newfoundland and the Magdalen Islands, including Greenpeace, a movement that says not see ecological threat to the herd of sea lions in the Gulf of St. Lawrence.
"There are chandeliers that we no longer anyone there because, quite simply, no longer Greenpeace campaign against the seal hunt. The species is not in danger, unlike other marine mammals - which is the case of several species of whales, especially - that our organizations are trying to protect and defend other oceans. But there are people who still see the Islands Greenpeace activists in every opponent of the seal hunt. The locals had taken really bad at the time, which further explains the continuing confusion in the minds of some, "said Steven Guilbeault of Greenpeace Quebec.
The first to corroborate the statements of this ecological activist is none other than the regional director of Fisheries and Oceans Canada Daniel Caron, who also confirms that the seal herd of St. Lawrence is "absolutely not threatened" and that " actually, we do not see any ecologist hunting against the seal hunters.
"Environmental activists says Caron, realized that this hunt even has an ecological function because it serves to keep the herd size to achieve a problem in the marine ecosystem. It is a hunt that matches all criteria of sustainable development: the stock is not threatened and may undergo sustainable exploitation. But environmentalists fundamentally recognize the need to maintain the ecological balance and that is why they are not opposed to the hunt. This is not the case, however, animal rights organizations present in the Islands, who oppose hunting, not for environmental reasons but on behalf of moral values. "
Tampering
Indeed, in recent years, are major international animal groups that openly oppose the seal hunt in the name of moral values and not environmentally friendly. This is mainly the International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW), Sea Shepperd radical activist Paul Watson (who had started Greenpeace in the animalistic way in 70 years before being returned to the movement) and more recently , People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (TETA).
Some try for a few days to mobilize the American public, notably with the publication very noticed it a few days ago, an ad in the New York Times, which also published a photo showing a pool of blood clean cut on bottom good white ice, also published yesterday by a Montreal newspaper.
"I understand that journalists who come here and know nothing about hunting can be manipulated by animal rights groups. I understand unless media by engaging in such an emotional blanket. There is talk of slaughter in the case of seals but everyone finds it normal that day we landslide 19 million chickens in BC without a drop of blood to illustrate the articles, "said the regional director of Fisheries and Oceans.
The latter revolted that some major international animal groups still use baby seals on their website to attract generous donors whereas for over 15 years it is strictly forbidden to kill any pup on the ice floes. Legal hunting now focuses only on adult animals, says Daniel Caron, and hunters have undergone training to be extremely effective in the way they kill seals.
The most efficient
The use of craft club, making it shudder more, is actually the most effective way ever tested by researchers. A study for the Malouf commission, established after the campaign by Brigitte Bardot in the 70 years had tested different ways of killing. The blow from a club that destroys the cerebellum, the sensations of the center and seat of the sympathetic system that regulates automatic functions like heart and respiration, is far more effective than shooting death by electrocution or otherwise, he said. Clinical death is instantaneous.
Quebec Director of Fisheries and Oceans agrees that the sight of blood on a white snow is not a pleasing sight for anyone. But it is a strictly controlled hunting practices. Provided that in any slaughterhouse. And, as just demonstrated another very recent university study, adds Daniel Caron, the animals do not suffer and have no sensation even if some detect movements after death. This is post-mortem spasms, like all sport hunters and fishers were able to see and as we see every day in slaughterhouses.
Where once we used only adult seals the skin, today is used more and more their fat, most of the useful weight to extract the Omega-3 of exceptional quality with the added bonus , said to be properties that slow the aging nervous system. On the Lower North Shore, the hunters' families also eat seal meat, a relatively unknown regional cuisine.
Population explosion
The head of fisheries in the Gulf adds that the seal hunt has the major ecological advantage "to keep the herd down six million heads and especially to prevent it from growing." The cessation of hunting in the 70 years has caused an explosion of the population of sea-bass, which has increased from two to six million head today. Commercial fishermen, he says, would like the catch level to be higher because seals eat significant amounts of cod and other commercial species of marine fish.
"The seals are not responsible for the disappearance of cod. But their increasing predation on marine species added to the stress that struck many, including overfishing, "says Daniel Caron.
The hunting quota fixed since last year to 350 000 heads after being frozen for years 278 000 heads, was established as part of a three-year business plan, a plan that ends next year . The new quota will be drawn from an aerial survey, he says, that will take place soon. This quota is established in concert with the scientific community and not as a result of the pressures of all kinds.
"Curious to note that the increase in hunting quota has not created special campaign last year by animal rights groups and that suddenly the case this year. It is not for nothing that some of these groups are campaigning with seals: it is more salable in England that campaigns against the hunt and, in Spain, this is outselling the fight against bullfights.
The money they amass with seals obviously used to finance activities in other areas. This seems very effective, "says the regional director of Fisheries and Oceans.
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Website : http://www.ledevoir.com/2004/04/07/51681.html
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Seal hunting is no longer a threat
On the ice, the animal rights have replaced environmentalists
Louis-Gilles Francoeur
Wednesday edition April 7 2004
Keywords: Quebec (province), hunting seals
Not a single environmental group campaigning against the seal hunt in Newfoundland and the Magdalen Islands, including Greenpeace, a movement that says not see ecological threat to the herd of sea lions in the Gulf of St. Lawrence.
"There are chandeliers that we no longer anyone there because, quite simply, no longer Greenpeace campaign against the seal hunt. The species is not in danger, unlike other marine mammals - which is the case of several species of whales, especially - that our organizations are trying to protect and defend other oceans. But there are people who still see the Islands Greenpeace activists in every opponent of the seal hunt. The locals had taken really bad at the time, which further explains the continuing confusion in the minds of some, "said Steven Guilbeault of Greenpeace Quebec.
The first to corroborate the statements of this ecological activist is none other than the regional director of Fisheries and Oceans Canada Daniel Caron, who also confirms that the seal herd of St. Lawrence is "absolutely not threatened" and that " actually, we do not see any ecologist hunting against the seal hunters.
"Environmental activists says Caron, realized that this hunt even has an ecological function because it serves to keep the herd size to achieve a problem in the marine ecosystem. It is a hunt that matches all criteria of sustainable development: the stock is not threatened and may undergo sustainable exploitation. But environmentalists fundamentally recognize the need to maintain the ecological balance and that is why they are not opposed to the hunt. This is not the case, however, animal rights organizations present in the Islands, who oppose hunting, not for environmental reasons but on behalf of moral values. "
Tampering
Indeed, in recent years, are major international animal groups that openly oppose the seal hunt in the name of moral values and not environmentally friendly. This is mainly the International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW), Sea Shepperd radical activist Paul Watson (who had started Greenpeace in the animalistic way in 70 years before being returned to the movement) and more recently , People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (TETA).
Some try for a few days to mobilize the American public, notably with the publication very noticed it a few days ago, an ad in the New York Times, which also published a photo showing a pool of blood clean cut on bottom good white ice, also published yesterday by a Montreal newspaper.
"I understand that journalists who come here and know nothing about hunting can be manipulated by animal rights groups. I understand unless media by engaging in such an emotional blanket. There is talk of slaughter in the case of seals but everyone finds it normal that day we landslide 19 million chickens in BC without a drop of blood to illustrate the articles, "said the regional director of Fisheries and Oceans.
The latter revolted that some major international animal groups still use baby seals on their website to attract generous donors whereas for over 15 years it is strictly forbidden to kill any pup on the ice floes. Legal hunting now focuses only on adult animals, says Daniel Caron, and hunters have undergone training to be extremely effective in the way they kill seals.
The most efficient
The use of craft club, making it shudder more, is actually the most effective way ever tested by researchers. A study for the Malouf commission, established after the campaign by Brigitte Bardot in the 70 years had tested different ways of killing. The blow from a club that destroys the cerebellum, the sensations of the center and seat of the sympathetic system that regulates automatic functions like heart and respiration, is far more effective than shooting death by electrocution or otherwise, he said. Clinical death is instantaneous.
Quebec Director of Fisheries and Oceans agrees that the sight of blood on a white snow is not a pleasing sight for anyone. But it is a strictly controlled hunting practices. Provided that in any slaughterhouse. And, as just demonstrated another very recent university study, adds Daniel Caron, the animals do not suffer and have no sensation even if some detect movements after death. This is post-mortem spasms, like all sport hunters and fishers were able to see and as we see every day in slaughterhouses.
Where once we used only adult seals the skin, today is used more and more their fat, most of the useful weight to extract the Omega-3 of exceptional quality with the added bonus , said to be properties that slow the aging nervous system. On the Lower North Shore, the hunters' families also eat seal meat, a relatively unknown regional cuisine.
Population explosion
The head of fisheries in the Gulf adds that the seal hunt has the major ecological advantage "to keep the herd down six million heads and especially to prevent it from growing." The cessation of hunting in the 70 years has caused an explosion of the population of sea-bass, which has increased from two to six million head today. Commercial fishermen, he says, would like the catch level to be higher because seals eat significant amounts of cod and other commercial species of marine fish.
"The seals are not responsible for the disappearance of cod. But their increasing predation on marine species added to the stress that struck many, including overfishing, "says Daniel Caron.
The hunting quota fixed since last year to 350 000 heads after being frozen for years 278 000 heads, was established as part of a three-year business plan, a plan that ends next year . The new quota will be drawn from an aerial survey, he says, that will take place soon. This quota is established in concert with the scientific community and not as a result of the pressures of all kinds.
"Curious to note that the increase in hunting quota has not created special campaign last year by animal rights groups and that suddenly the case this year. It is not for nothing that some of these groups are campaigning with seals: it is more salable in England that campaigns against the hunt and, in Spain, this is outselling the fight against bullfights.
The money they amass with seals obviously used to finance activities in other areas. This seems very effective, "says the regional director of Fisheries and Oceans.
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Website : http://www.ledevoir.com/2004/04/07/51681.html
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Andre wrote:Nature naturally balance without the human hand. When there was a lot of ice, the polar bear were predators of seals and seals are predators of fish all the machine were in balance (the white man) to start killing the bear, overfishing, and now it changes temperature. it does not come that concentrations of populations are unevenly distributed on the earth?
I do not think the problem comes from the concentration or poor population distribution is especially that Man drew freely, especially without thinking about the consequences of his actions, he has created an imbalance, too hunt, too sin, the same species. The seal hunt has become, over time, less natural activity, one would think that man hunt to defend against an invasion that eventually harm ..... seals plunder fish stocks, as Man himself has plundered
I think you we do not run out of air to lead by example on éffort to make the greenhouse effect. If one takes into account the area of Quebec, if we measure the releases of poluants therein product I think we are in the forefront in terms of quality requirements of the environment.
Now if we put to calculate the pollution per capita, it is certain that the way in climate and isolated life that need more energy for heating, transportation and recreation ect ..
Out of air? but what leaders say.
Environmentalists have pleaded with the new Conservative government to continue to work according to the Kyoto target for Canada, a reduction of 6 greenhouse gases per cent from the levels of 1990. But Mr. Harper argued that this goal was unattainable and virtually ruled the death of Kyoto. During the last election, he cited the poor performance of Canada since the entry into force of the agreement and that it was too late to achieve the planned targets 2012. Greenhouse gas emissions rose from 24 1990 percent in Canada, which underperformed in the fight against climate change that the United States itself - that have not signed the protocol. "The Kyoto accord will fail to achieve its objectives and (...) the Canadian government can not achieve its goals," he said in January. Ms. Ambrose said see a problem in the provisions of the Kyoto agreement which allow the purchase of carbon emission credits to help meet the goals, but do nothing to improve the environment here and encourage Canadian clean technologies. The Canada solution promised by the Harper government will focus not only on greenhouse gas emissions, but also the cleanliness of the water, soil and the air, she said.
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20060 ... 14175/1025
All winter I am wanders on northern lakes has Québéc Europeans see the amount of tourists who come to snowmobile or sled dog and listen to their comments on the clean air and snow and the tall pines spaces.
The problem is that this pollution is largely passes over our heads, it is not necessarily visible, except in megacities, where it is almost palpable.
I'm a little surprised to hear that we sum of (large) gas producers of greenhouse gases, while the majority of homes are heated has electricity which it is made almost exclusively Hydroelectric (I do not speak Canada, I speak of Quebec).
http://www.ec.gc.ca/cleanair-airpur/Bra ... E-1_Fr.htm
I may be one of the big polluters 950 liters of gasoline this winter to take a plane ride on the lakes,
but when I look all the time 2 fuel burn tourists on snowmobile ... they are not better than me ..
and as I said, diluted in this huge pine forest that is pervasive on 1000km is a goutte..d'urine in a sea.
This is not a single plane that makes a difference, there are thousands of aircraft at the same time, and all the world's forests can not absorb the emitted CO2
When a hunting I'm the hunter, and as I have already said I will be when hunter moose have guns
I fed the deer in winter, come in my yard.
(They like apples)
I'm still part of the principle that animals are sensitive to, as I see myself ill go hunting to kill .... I prefer hunting for images is more up my alley
But hunting is a tradition that comes from our orgines Quebecois and Indians. this is part of morals, workers take their holidays in the hunting season, snow geese, moose duck ect .. the other is the fishing, normally everything is controlled and it is severe.
It perpetuates traditions, in France too, hunting for pigeon is vigorously defended by hunters, while Palombes are fewer and fewer. To the point that environmentalists have to disrupt hunting days, and this generates violence either side
Whichever method one takes to kill animeaux I do not like it, yet I eat Steck, chicken and fish .. André
Effectively the methods are very criticizable, even for the farm animals that have become "things"
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The vision of the real problems
SOURCE: Greenpeace Canada
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- For immediate release (Montreal: February 9 06) -
SOS for Quebec's boreal forest
Montreal, February 9 2006 - Greenpeace has strongly reacted to the publication of a new study *, conducted by Global Forest Watch Canada (GFWC). Satellite imagery of the boreal forest has documented over a decade - of 1990 2000 è - the devastation of the Quebec boreal forest and the urgency to act. This new study, the most comprehensive to date, demonstrates that a significant portion of our Boreal is disturbed by commercial logging, but also by the construction of roads and the creation of reservoirs. This study sounds red alert.
"In ten years, more than 2 million hectares (or 20 000 km2) of boreal forest have been affected by human activity, mainly by clearcutting," said Steven Guilbeault, director of Greenpeace Quebec . "This confirms the concerns raised by the Coulombe Commission, there are now more than a year. At the rate cuts are, they become trees as rare as cod? ".
The report notes that 5% that northern forest (between 48e and 56e parallel) has been affected during the last 10 years. However, it is the most southerly zone (between 48e and 50e parallel) which has been the subject of intensive activities and the percentage of the territory affected in this zone is much higher, reaching, in the case of some watersheds between 10 and 25%.
Greenpeace Quebec over the delay in the protection of the forest is increasingly shouting: "There are two days the British Columbia announced a historic agreement between forest companies, First Nations, government and environmental groups that will protect what we have destroyed in recent years 10 or 2 million hectares of boreal forest, "says Steven Guilbeault.
"The Quebec government must stop playing the ostrich. The report reminds GFWC required to implement all the recommendations of the Coulombe Commission, including those concerning the ecosystem forest management, recommendations on which the Charest government has been quieter since the publication of the report " Steven Guilbeault concluded.
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* The study is entitled: Recent Anthropogenic Changes within the ecozones of the northern boreal forest.
For more information : www.greenpeace.ca/f
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My vision of the facts:
Forest resources are exploited for decades by companies that are here to profit. When our province will become a desert, they will go elsewhere to practice their "stumpage" The Government is associated with this system ... We went to use the boreal forest, everything was cut elsewhere !!!
Wood that has value is exterminated long time ... There is only the "cotton" and the voracious companies are fighting for leftovers ....
Everything is used or destroyed .... The machinery is so effective that it eats the forest and no one can stop "progress" ... The forest is a renewable resource, but it never has time to reproduce the rhythm of the operation ...
We know that our resources are plundered, but we do not have the tools to deal with the power of multinationals is the "stumpage" and here I will not speak of the price paid, we subsidize shaving ...
Clearcutting is devastating for the animals that inhabit these forests and need to feed and live there ... .. But they have more space and the problem starts with clearcutting .... We say nothing of erosion and secondary problems ....
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[Size = 12]Defending Our Oceans
"Greenpeace is committed to defending the oceans, plants, animals and people that depend on them. "[/ size]
visit: http://oceans.greenpeace.org/fr/documents-et-rapports
________________________________________________
My vision :
I think Greenpeace here in Canada can see the issues and focus on the source of the real problems ... I share their concerns ... We are in complex systems and several factors have broken the balance of nature ...
In promoting Greenpeace, they include "the people who depend on"
I see here a broader concern that the blind defense of hunting ....
-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------
- For immediate release (Montreal: February 9 06) -
SOS for Quebec's boreal forest
Montreal, February 9 2006 - Greenpeace has strongly reacted to the publication of a new study *, conducted by Global Forest Watch Canada (GFWC). Satellite imagery of the boreal forest has documented over a decade - of 1990 2000 è - the devastation of the Quebec boreal forest and the urgency to act. This new study, the most comprehensive to date, demonstrates that a significant portion of our Boreal is disturbed by commercial logging, but also by the construction of roads and the creation of reservoirs. This study sounds red alert.
"In ten years, more than 2 million hectares (or 20 000 km2) of boreal forest have been affected by human activity, mainly by clearcutting," said Steven Guilbeault, director of Greenpeace Quebec . "This confirms the concerns raised by the Coulombe Commission, there are now more than a year. At the rate cuts are, they become trees as rare as cod? ".
The report notes that 5% that northern forest (between 48e and 56e parallel) has been affected during the last 10 years. However, it is the most southerly zone (between 48e and 50e parallel) which has been the subject of intensive activities and the percentage of the territory affected in this zone is much higher, reaching, in the case of some watersheds between 10 and 25%.
Greenpeace Quebec over the delay in the protection of the forest is increasingly shouting: "There are two days the British Columbia announced a historic agreement between forest companies, First Nations, government and environmental groups that will protect what we have destroyed in recent years 10 or 2 million hectares of boreal forest, "says Steven Guilbeault.
"The Quebec government must stop playing the ostrich. The report reminds GFWC required to implement all the recommendations of the Coulombe Commission, including those concerning the ecosystem forest management, recommendations on which the Charest government has been quieter since the publication of the report " Steven Guilbeault concluded.
_____________________________________________
* The study is entitled: Recent Anthropogenic Changes within the ecozones of the northern boreal forest.
For more information : www.greenpeace.ca/f
____________________________________
My vision of the facts:
Forest resources are exploited for decades by companies that are here to profit. When our province will become a desert, they will go elsewhere to practice their "stumpage" The Government is associated with this system ... We went to use the boreal forest, everything was cut elsewhere !!!
Wood that has value is exterminated long time ... There is only the "cotton" and the voracious companies are fighting for leftovers ....
Everything is used or destroyed .... The machinery is so effective that it eats the forest and no one can stop "progress" ... The forest is a renewable resource, but it never has time to reproduce the rhythm of the operation ...
We know that our resources are plundered, but we do not have the tools to deal with the power of multinationals is the "stumpage" and here I will not speak of the price paid, we subsidize shaving ...
Clearcutting is devastating for the animals that inhabit these forests and need to feed and live there ... .. But they have more space and the problem starts with clearcutting .... We say nothing of erosion and secondary problems ....
_____________________________________
[Size = 12]Defending Our Oceans
"Greenpeace is committed to defending the oceans, plants, animals and people that depend on them. "[/ size]
visit: http://oceans.greenpeace.org/fr/documents-et-rapports
________________________________________________
My vision :
I think Greenpeace here in Canada can see the issues and focus on the source of the real problems ... I share their concerns ... We are in complex systems and several factors have broken the balance of nature ...
In promoting Greenpeace, they include "the people who depend on"
I see here a broader concern that the blind defense of hunting ....
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Hello
For the new government if you followed a little politics
saurrai you that this is a government issue of big oil in Alberta, as our southern neighbor is the polititens (sotie petroleum,) so the Kyoto Protocol is an obstacle for them. And this minority government and, whenever it may be reverse, he walks on eggshells.
When I speak numbers or value I speak of Quebec
which is a province (country) 3 times as big as France and very sparsely populated and less populated 10 time, how this small population can make it as large pollution a country has high density. Unless you have very poorly framed industries.
When I see that the least isolated cottage 200km cvilisation any use on weekends, were is forced to build a septic fields, and often it's too close to the lake and in the rock must carting sand ect ..
Ho engines it remains that has to ask the Bedouin installing chemical toilets in the desert.
You have to compare things, city people with things isolated. Explains a lumberjack in the wood as its environmental friendly environment is polluted and that he must make an effort, you'll see the answer, it will Tand trout in the lake and he can drink water directly in the lake for him the equation is completed.
Now I work in a steel mill and I had to calculate water discharges to the river.
The calculation method favors the big polluter,
the norm was that each year we had to decrease the rejections of X% I do not want to advance numbers, I think half
noble gesture, but the big polluting companies that do nothing to improve them it is easy to reduce, but those who were concerned above standards and had considerably reduced their emissions is harder technologically respect this standard.
In the end there were lower half of the, flow of water in the river
but still ausssi dirty (they halved their rejection), except that the shit is going on elsewhere on piles in the forest and mountain grown, it swelled enough that it buries all alone
When I see that polititiens want to prevent us from burning wood and increases the electricity, they serve good consience the people to increase the coffers of the states
There are just measuring the extent of forest fires to compare the little wood that is used for domestic heating to understand.
The single-point or can be agreed is the unnecessary destruction of nature, of animals, but I think so many men had been more sensitive to the massacres of Tutsi strain Africas and Serbia, and it continues still everywhere in the world
it would not go well.
For the rest of the standards are made by politicians who ride in limousines with tinted windows and speaks of thirst Bedouin dessert before a chilled glass has air conditioning.
In other words when you make standards the same standards we put a plant with a farmer on his land.
We must make a differrence with a big city and a lumberjack camps.
In summary, when you made a world standard and that you apply it in integralité regardless of the density of the territory makes you inapplicable.
he must know how the differrence among a herd of wild boars that shit in the woods and wastes a mégaporcherie.
In the corner or I very life that we would own great and even that is not exist, our southern neighbors with their coal and all their pollution, when the southern winds blowing in is washing in the rain acids, and it dissolves in large forest.
What tickles me in your reasoning you take the numbers give governments and politicians have funny calculation methods alone to calculate unemployment
or life expectancy.
the methods are so differrentes from one country to the other comparisons are distorted completions.
When comparerat, gas release greenhouse or rawhide per square km is able to make comparisons.
one could easily say that a mower pollutes more than a big truck and I have serious doubts about the measurement protocol
A contaminant I measure in its total.
Although pollution is not my thing, I'll concenter me the panton, I do not want to maintain a more dicution finish
for who is right or who's wrong, often travel country currency and see what the others live and do.
Andre
For the new government if you followed a little politics
saurrai you that this is a government issue of big oil in Alberta, as our southern neighbor is the polititens (sotie petroleum,) so the Kyoto Protocol is an obstacle for them. And this minority government and, whenever it may be reverse, he walks on eggshells.
When I speak numbers or value I speak of Quebec
which is a province (country) 3 times as big as France and very sparsely populated and less populated 10 time, how this small population can make it as large pollution a country has high density. Unless you have very poorly framed industries.
When I see that the least isolated cottage 200km cvilisation any use on weekends, were is forced to build a septic fields, and often it's too close to the lake and in the rock must carting sand ect ..
Ho engines it remains that has to ask the Bedouin installing chemical toilets in the desert.
You have to compare things, city people with things isolated. Explains a lumberjack in the wood as its environmental friendly environment is polluted and that he must make an effort, you'll see the answer, it will Tand trout in the lake and he can drink water directly in the lake for him the equation is completed.
Now I work in a steel mill and I had to calculate water discharges to the river.
The calculation method favors the big polluter,
the norm was that each year we had to decrease the rejections of X% I do not want to advance numbers, I think half
noble gesture, but the big polluting companies that do nothing to improve them it is easy to reduce, but those who were concerned above standards and had considerably reduced their emissions is harder technologically respect this standard.
In the end there were lower half of the, flow of water in the river
but still ausssi dirty (they halved their rejection), except that the shit is going on elsewhere on piles in the forest and mountain grown, it swelled enough that it buries all alone
When I see that polititiens want to prevent us from burning wood and increases the electricity, they serve good consience the people to increase the coffers of the states
There are just measuring the extent of forest fires to compare the little wood that is used for domestic heating to understand.
The single-point or can be agreed is the unnecessary destruction of nature, of animals, but I think so many men had been more sensitive to the massacres of Tutsi strain Africas and Serbia, and it continues still everywhere in the world
it would not go well.
For the rest of the standards are made by politicians who ride in limousines with tinted windows and speaks of thirst Bedouin dessert before a chilled glass has air conditioning.
In other words when you make standards the same standards we put a plant with a farmer on his land.
We must make a differrence with a big city and a lumberjack camps.
In summary, when you made a world standard and that you apply it in integralité regardless of the density of the territory makes you inapplicable.
he must know how the differrence among a herd of wild boars that shit in the woods and wastes a mégaporcherie.
In the corner or I very life that we would own great and even that is not exist, our southern neighbors with their coal and all their pollution, when the southern winds blowing in is washing in the rain acids, and it dissolves in large forest.
What tickles me in your reasoning you take the numbers give governments and politicians have funny calculation methods alone to calculate unemployment
or life expectancy.
the methods are so differrentes from one country to the other comparisons are distorted completions.
When comparerat, gas release greenhouse or rawhide per square km is able to make comparisons.
one could easily say that a mower pollutes more than a big truck and I have serious doubts about the measurement protocol
A contaminant I measure in its total.
Although pollution is not my thing, I'll concenter me the panton, I do not want to maintain a more dicution finish
for who is right or who's wrong, often travel country currency and see what the others live and do.
Andre
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