manitou22 wrote:
Okofen like other high-end (fröhling, guntamatic and so on) manufactures machines full of qualities: robustness, reliability, adaptability, performance, but these machines present an insurmountable flaw for a large number of potential customers, they are too complex. The average customer who wants a renewable energy boiler will quickly be overwhelmed with a machine made for technicians. it's time for "plug and play" or else people go their way. In the same vein, a complex regulation associating several energies in an individual heating will make your house unmarketable if you have to part with it.
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1) I still have some explanations for Alain G. Too busy this weekend. I will come back to the so-called complexity of these machines and the regulation by motorized V3V / external probe ... So those who are interested, we will deal / discuss this question.
2) I "also" partly agree with you. On the "plug and play" issue.
I note however that even on a "plug and play" machine, we have to configure, download, etc ... [I'm talking about software, skype, facebook - which I don't use, so I could be wrong ; but it seems to me that there are also a lot of check marks ...]
3) But I would say that the problem is above all and above all the fact that professionals do not master, because they pass without more training from the gas or fuel boiler to the pellet chuaidère much more complex.
4) This results in disappointed users.
The problem is known to the best brands (Okofen for example - I have been in contact with the head office several times on obvious "errors" of certain "professionals", who confirmed it to me).
5) Alas, we are in an emerging market in France. So if some heating engineers (mine for example) have good control, others find out.
In addition to this, people call themselves "heating engineers" who are sometimes only plumbers. The piping is fine (although we have also seen V3Vs mounted upside down), but as soon as it comes to circuits, connections, probes, electronic board, it gets tough!
Yes, this is unfortunate.
6) The settings are not that complex! The proof, take the wires with MOREA or with Neek-O. Despite their rough side (obviously, we are several stakeholders, we have different opinions), and despite the distance, we quickly identified the problem and improved things.
Dhaulagiri is a very typical case. Starting from a machine very badly configured, with 12-minute cycles, it found itself very quickly with correct configuration and spectacular improvement in performance (45-minute cycles). And still, he did not follow the method suggested to him to the letter, wanting to do too many things too quickly! [I hope not to upset him! because if I give a damn to everyone on the back!]
What we did remotely, in confusion, any good professional should be able to do on the day of the start! I say "SHOULD" [or we have the modesty not to call ourselves "professional" or worse, "technician"]
Should we blame the boilers or these "professionals"?
7) Above all, "incheatable" houses will be unsaleable, ie poorly insulated houses and those heated with energies whose prices will skyrocket. In my opinion.
I think I can sell my quiet house. My "biomass" heating seems rather a plus! My boiler, you press the green button. It is configured. Let’s admit that unfortunately it explodes: it will have to be replaced, but the heating engineer would have to be a pure jerk not to resume the settings!
Two things can, however, change with a new owner: the scheduling schedules (which are quite clear - that's not what we come up against) or, in the event of a change in the insulation (works), the parameters of the slope (a little more difficult at first, but here too, quite easy).
Frankly, I am serene.