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by Targol » 01/04/07, 01:42

gegyx wrote:For the petition, the citro bond is not successful.

Go here, it works. There is also the comment of the computer scientist who launched the protest.
Circulate. Thank you.

http://www.recul-democratique.org/


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by I Citro » 01/04/07, 10:47

Thanks for updating the link. 8)

I can not see my "vote" of the petition, not validated? :?:
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by Targol » 01/04/07, 12:36

citro wrote:Thanks for updating the link. 8)

I can not see my "vote" of the petition, not validated? :?:
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Did you respond to the confirmation email they send?
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by I Citro » 02/04/07, 09:46

:frown: Yes but it gets stuck ...
I sent them an email this morning, I haven't had any home network for 2 days ...
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by Targol » 02/04/07, 14:12

About that :
Socialist Party steps up against electronic voting
The political party calls into question the operation of electronic voting machines and calls for a moratorium on their use.

The initiative is not late but it is undoubtedly the intention that counts. Less than a month before the first round of the presidential election, the Socialist Party has chosen to denounce "the creeping process of establishing electronic voting (...) in France". Since 1969, the electoral code has provided for the possibility of using electronic voting (1) for political elections. But it was not until 2003 that the Ministry of the Interior, after years of hesitation waltz, gave its approval to three solutions of electronic voting machines. Two of them are now sharply criticized.

On April 22 and May 6, 1,4 million voters, out of a total of 44,5 million registered, will use these machines to express their choice. In a statement, the national office of the Socialist Party is worried about "multiple operating incidents", which would have been listed in the United States on the ES & S-iVotronic machines, and the reluctance of certain European countries such as Ireland and the United States. -Based on those of the NEDAP brand, which represent 80% of the installed base in France.

Online petition collected 30 signatures

For a long time reluctant on this file - in particular via the interventions of Michel Rocard, Gilles Savary or Patrick Bloche - the PS has therefore decided to take a further step by calling for a parliamentary debate on the subject. "In French democracy, the ballot box and the voting booth are not nothing, and the question of the reliability of this equipment, and in particular of the methods of recounting the votes, must be asked", explains Vincent Feltesse, secretary national NTIC of the Socialist Party.

Along with the criticism of the rue de Solférino, a petition was recently put online at the initiative of Pierre Müller, a computer scientist skeptical of electronic voting technologies. It has already collected more than 30 signatures. Finally, echoing the socialist approach, certain parties such as the Greens or the PCF, or certain presidential candidates, such as José Bové or François Bayrou, have also expressed their strongest reservations about these new ways of expressing suffrage. universal.

For the anecdote, the centrist leader François Bayrou, moreover never seems to have been so opposed to electronic voting as since his ex-traveling companion, the very trendy mayor of Issy-les-Moulineaux, André Santini, has joined the ranks of the UMP. On April 22, all voters in this Hauts-de-Seine locality will be called upon to vote on ES&S iVotronic machines.

(1) Electronic voting, which takes place through voting machines, should not be confused with Internet voting.


source: 01net.com
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by gegyx » 02/04/07, 14:29

... more 6000 signatures since 2 days.
Members of the forum, if you are convinced of the harmfulness of this messy system, give your signature, and circulate.
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by Targol » 04/04/07, 15:50

At the request of Zac who succeeded (risking his life : Lol: ) to obtain it, and EXCLUSIVE on Econologie.com, here is the "famous" program present in the voting machines:

Download the operating system of the machines
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by gegyx » 20/04/07, 22:04

The city of Amiens renounces electronic voting
Amiens had decided to officially switch to electronic voting in eighteen of its sixty-eight polling stations.

But this morning of April 20, the mayor (UDF) Gilles de Robien “backtracked” and canceled the operation. Voters will be able, after voting in the traditional way, to try out electronic machines and leave their impressions on registers open for this purpose.

http://www.01net.com/editorial/346907/p ... ctronique/
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by Other » 22/04/07, 05:33

Hello
It would however be simple to provide a sort of cash register of which we see the name of the candidate printed on a receipt behind a window and which the machine keeps "in its belly" for any subsequent control.
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The voters have a Number and a pool not a name returned in the machine, on each list the voters have a number, a crossed out voter his number disappears, an voter added in revision receives a new number at the bottom of the list

On the bullets the voter number does not appear, it is another number which is used for decontage to know the exact number it has in the box, in this way we cannot identify the vote of an voter .

Although those who do statistics after the elections can tell if everyone in the same box voted the same.

this is what happened when the religious communities, the whole convent had decided to vote early (on the recommendations of the mother superior?) and as it had an appointed pool the electoral list is known by the various parties, the box of advance vote is taken separately as they all voted for the same candidate, it is easy to say that such and such a person voted for such and such a candidate!
If only one voter had voted differently, the doubt would be there.
it's like the blank bullet from the execution pluton.
it is the controversy when a politician made a declaration the day after a referendum, and that he pointed out certain communities (not to name them here) it is that he knew that pools with a strong religious concentration had voted 100% for no) ..

The electronic vote must have a paper to make a legal recount, no notary accepts a Fax, no medical report is done only on electronic a surgical operation must be transcribed in paper in a file in case of problem is of continuation, that would be too much trying to fix the situation afterwards ...
As a surgeon said we others our mistakes have buried them ....

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