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by Ahmed » 01/05/08, 13:07

@ Rabbit:
You say Miscanthus is greedy of nutrients, which I am tempted to believe in light of its growth, however, all the net on documents show great restraint? Can you bring me some answers?
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by jc-tergal » 01/05/08, 13:36

From what I know after a few professionals, myscanthus does not need much to grow, so the remark on fertilizers surprises me a lot (he worked for Monsanto to say may be ca :P ). The first year is cut in half and from the second year it has cut the base to have the same thing the following year and during 25 years without major repairs.

It is also used to clean up the soil heavy metal that absorbs very well (but then after we did what pollutes the myscanthus ??).

Here the Metaleurop site that is ultra firm pollutes and so they plant the myscanthus to clean it up
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by Ahmed » 01/05/08, 13:56

You say the first year is the halfway cut, please consider that? The stems die each fall anyway, so a priori there is no reason to cut the base the first year?
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by Christophe » 01/05/08, 16:47

The miscanthus is "greedy" if it will "spike" its growth, ie obtain 20 T of DM per ha ... without "doping" it manages to make 10 T of DM per ha without problem ...

The failure to carve 1ere year is mainly to promote growth after years of ...

More detailed answers 3 in these documents:

https://www.econologie.com/miscanthus-pr ... -3743.html
https://www.econologie.com/informations- ... -3431.html
https://www.econologie.com/culture-et-re ... -3738.html
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by Ahmed » 01/05/08, 17:41

Well, I can not downloading, too bad! Thank you anyway for your answer.
But I do not understand why turning off or not rods séches can have any influence on the subsequent shoot?

I states, moreover, as I have already written on the thread of Mr. Alsace, I'm pretty skeptical about the real potential of the MG. But, I am very interested in plants, so obviously as the MG ...
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by Christophe » 01/05/08, 18:42

Ahmed wrote:Well, I can not downloading, too bad! Thank you anyway for your answer.


Probably because you have not read this page (2 links in red on the page download): https://www.econologie.com/comment-etre- ... logie.html

Ahmed wrote:But I do not understand why turning off or not rods séches can have any influence on the subsequent shoot?


Me neither but if the pros are saying is that there is necessarily a reason right? :)
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by jc-tergal » 01/05/08, 19:47

Ahmed wrote:But I do not understand why turning off or not rods séches can have any influence on the subsequent shoot?


Well, it's people who made it grow and test who told me. This is actually to promote regrowth the year after. By cons I do not know if the tignes are dry and I do not see why. It does not die after a year. So the stem is not really dry !!
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by Ahmed » 01/05/08, 20:45

Jc tergal wrote:
It does not die after one year. So the stem is not really dry !!

Sorry, wrong reasoning! Certainly the strain is perennial but the aerial parts die each fall and then dry up. It is even one of the interest of this plant, since thus it is possible to harvest the biomass dry, so with a high calorific value (or, if one prefers, of not requiring artificial drying).
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by Rabbit » 01/05/08, 22:27

From what I know after a few professionals, myscanthus does not need much to grow, so the remark on fertilizers surprises me much


I do not know that the professionals are saying, or even s there
prof ds this area BECAUSE he is still at the experimental stage.
But if the good literature is consulted on the net (well those that do not have
Copying / pasting) .It is made ecris that has a very myscanthus
ds large efficacitee the transformation of perceived energy, it is
also indicates that facilitated the cultivation of myscanthus makes
just as energetically explained interessante.Cela
the enthusiasm of its promoters. The question of fertilization
is not really address. It only indicates that the fall
leaves enough culture to fertilize for next year.
The aspect of water consumption is not either addressed.
In the benefits of set forward by proponents of the
myscanthus culture is put before the planting
is home to animals including birds, invertebrates and small mammals.
J will like to see a study on the sujet.Je not see how
a monoculture that know no pests can offer
git and shelter to these animals.

Being son of marecher, I know perfectly well that a plant
lush foliage must be properly fertilized with a fertilizer
richer in nitrogen. Unless of course the myscanthus benefited from
Using the symbiotic nodules such as beans. That does me
seems to be the case.
J did the test on the plants that I have .Without manure (ds my case
lawns drops and droppings of hens scratching at their feet)
the jets are not as thick, the stockier plant (lack of
80cm has 1 m) and they fall in the wind.
This experience is well on empirical and is not based on anything scientific.

I doubt that is the panacea myscanthus .In fact I
convinced that it will present great as inappropriate
soil depletion, replacing food crops
water consumption by irrigation and artificial impoverishment
the biodiversite.Mais he will have the advantage of not requiring
of pesticides.



(He worked for Monsanto to say ca can be Razz).

Because I try to preserve my karma, I make evitererai
derogatory comments .Sache that I have never worked or
never work for Monsanto.
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by Ahmed » 14/06/08, 16:39

Rabbit, you write:
But he will have the advantage of not requiring
pesticides.

This is true as long as it will be small areas, but given the projects that are developed, it will not stay long.
A static reasoning is irrelevant in biology since there is always feedback effects (feedback). Fairly quickly parasitic organisms will enjoy a mutation and then grow at great speed in this beautiful pantry single species.
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