EU Artémis test (CADC) on the 2018 water-doping oxidizer (kit gillier etc ...)

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by Janic » 23/01/18, 17:29

Christophe wrote:
you know honesty still exists ... I believe, I hope so ... Yes, but in this case, you just have to believe them.

You do their advertising and more.

Christophe does not advertise ONE system over another, but the water doping system he (and many others) has verified as real and effective. All the rest is just useless abstract and controversial discussions!
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by sicetaitsimple » 23/01/18, 17:46

I do not accuse anyone of fraud and may not understand everything about the test protocol.

Nevertheless I am still surprised by the reference consumption (without Econokit): more 8l / 100 with a Punto 1,4l turbo diesel from 2006 to 3000tr / mn in 5eme? It's not a business ....
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by izentrop » 23/01/18, 19:52

sicetaitsimple wrote: I am still surprised by the reference consumption (without Econokit): more 8l / 100 with a Punto 1,4l turbo diesel from 2006 to 3000tr / mn in 5eme? It's not a business ....
According to the immat number it is a Fiat GRANDE PUNTO - 2005 1.3 D multijet http://www.fiches-auto.fr/essai-fiat/mo ... jt-d-75-ch

The 1.4 turbo D does not exist?
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by sicetaitsimple » 23/01/18, 20:01

izentrop wrote:
sicetaitsimple wrote: I am still surprised by the reference consumption (without Econokit): more 8l / 100 with a Punto 1,4l turbo diesel from 2006 to 3000tr / mn in 5eme? It's not a business ....
According to the immat number it is a Fiat GRANDE PUNTO - 2005 1.3 D multijet http://www.fiches-auto.fr/essai-fiat/mo ... jt-d-75-ch

The 1.4 turbo D does not exist?


No idea, I only copy what is written in the Bureau Veritas report.
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by izentrop » 23/01/18, 20:19

User testimonials report average consumption between 5 and 6.5 l

Not very serious all that : Shock:
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by thibr » 23/01/18, 20:55

it's all phony? : Shock:
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by sicetaitsimple » 23/01/18, 21:24

thibr wrote:it's all phony? : Shock:


Nobody said that, at least not me.

Personally, I have no doubt that the injection of water, steam, humidification of the intake air, can reduce NOx emissions. It has been for a long time (at least 30 years) used industrially in combustion turbines.

Now you have to read the Bureau Veritas report: their mission, and only that one, was to measure emissions between test 1 and test 2. Everything else, read the report carefully, is the responsibility of the "customer" .
Whether 12 days have passed between test 1 and test 2, whether the vehicle has traveled nearly 1000km between the two tests, whether the bench has been adjusted or not exactly the same, all this is not theirs. problem. When the customer says "go", they take a sample for 5 minutes and provide the analysis results.

So be careful about the results in terms of consumption.

You think that an entry-level diesel car manufactured in 2005 would have sold with a consumption at 3000tr / mn in 5ème of 8l / 100km of diesel ????

Edit: on the flat, without wind, without gallery, without trailer ..... of course
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by izentrop » 24/01/18, 10:16

Hello,
The type of vehicle is confirmed by the document since the maximum power measured is 74.16 Cv
sicetaitsimple wrote:Edit: on the flat, without wind, without gallery, without trailer ..... of course
How to know?
It is written in the general measurement characteristics: "test at 3000 rpm 25 hp load 75%"

If they used this load of 75% for all measurements, it's a little more than rolling on flat.
For an 106 100 km / h, the load is 10 KW or 13.6 CV http://gm-energie.com/images/Consommati ... hicule.pdf

The CX of great punto being probably bigger, let us count 15 CV of 70 CV to 3000 rpm, that makes 21% of load.
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by Christophe » 24/01/18, 11:25

izentrop wrote:According to the immat number it is a Fiat GRANDE PUNTO - 2005 1.3 D multijet


I do not really understand either: it's a Fiat Punto classified as a utility van after the CT PV? A Punto pickup truck, is it possible?

And a search according to the VIN / NIV gives: https://vindecoder.eu/check-vin/ZFA19900000198009

Brand:
Passenger Car


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by izentrop » 24/01/18, 13:05

Maybe if it's a company vehicle without the back seat.
According to the mine type, it would be an 2 gates
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