Remake of the black gold with plastic

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by moinsdewatt » 08/08/14, 12:40

From old plastics to high-quality crude oil: this innovative recycling developed by a young American company turns our huge dumps into potential new black gold deposits.

Dec 2012

The Agilyx technique, born in Oregon (Western USA) just six years ago, can treat any plastic, even the oldest or the dirtiest for which a recycler would be fine stuffy.

"What interests us is not the plastics that are recycled today, it is the plastics that no one else wants and which generally end up in the landfill", explains to AFP Jon Angin, the vice -President of the company, present at the Lyon Pollutec Environmental Fair.

First crushed, said plastic is then placed in a large "cartridge", heated to be transformed into gas, then cooled with water, the oil then being separated by rising to the surface.

In the end, more than 75% of the starting weight is transformed into synthetic crude oil, ready to be refined like any Saudi or Russian black gold. The rest is divided into gas and final waste (less than 10%).

This ratio means that ten tons of plastic - whose global production 2011 is estimated at 280 million tons - give about fifty barrels of oil, according to the company, even if the equivalent of ten barrels of energy were used in the process industrial.

“We produce five units of energy for one unit consumed,” says Angin.

- First salon across the Atlantic -

Technology has already convinced: in addition to the large demonstrators that are already producing, several factories are under construction in the United States. And the 60 SME has already attracted to its capital the US number one Waste Management Waste or the French oil giant Total.

No need in fact of a barrel at 200 dollars to see this technology emerge: "At the current price of oil, Agilyx is already profitable", underlines François Badoual, director of Total Energy Ventures, investment subsidiary of the French group entered in the capital of the American at the end of 2010.

Mr. Angin prefers not to say too much about the floor price per barrel required for his business. "But we are quite calm, the price of oil is not ready to fall below this level," he slips, smiling.

As for the crude oil produced, it has nothing to envy in terms of quality to that drawn from around the world. Plastic is already a product of refined oil, it is already cleared of many impurities.

"It is a good quality crude that could be qualified as light, often sought after by refineries," confirms Mr. Badoual.

First on this niche thanks to the discoveries of its co-founder Kevin Dewitt, Agilyx sees emerging new competitors, like the British Cymar or the American Vadxx Energy, but they do not produce yet.

Is a European facility in sight? While Europe has a head start on recycling, Europe also has less land to landfill than the United States or Canada, says Jon Angin.

Its presence in Lyon is a sign of interest in the European market: it is the first time that the company has participated in a show on this side of the Atlantic.


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by moinsdewatt » 16/05/15, 13:45

Turning old tires into oil, the bet of a Franco-German start-up

AFP 09 / 05 / 2015

Recycle old tires into quality oil? In Saarland (West Germany), a young Franco-German company declares itself capable, thanks to a process by pyrolysis. But the tire industry is still suspicious and conducts its own research.

After three years of work and ten million euros of investment, Pyrum Innovations, based in Dillingen, near the French border, polishes the last adjustments of its first industrial unit, a metal silo of 25 meters high.

Its principle: in an inert environment to avoid their combustion, aggregates of used tires are heated to about 700 ° C in a vertical reactor, with false airs of Soyuz capsule, stuffed with control probes and containing some 300 baffles.

"Oil is formed in the condensation part of molecules", explains Pascal Klein, 28, one of the two founders of Pyrum. After refining, the oil obtained can be transformed to 60% in diesel equivalent, 30% in gasoline equivalent and 10% in solvents, according to him.

With its production unit designed to transform 5.000 tons of tires per year, Pyrum claims to be able to release 50% of oil, 38% of coke and 12% of gas, which is used to power the huge generator of the site, thus operating in autarky energy.

Pyrum, which participated this week in the Lépine contest in Paris which presents original inventions, hopes to commercialize its technology in the coming months.

On paper, the potential market is huge: 17 million tons of user tires are generated each year in the world, according to the Agency for the Environment and Energy Management (Ademe).

End-of-life tires are generally used as alternative fuel in cement plants or thermal power plants or, to a lesser extent, are reused for road foundations, street furniture or noise barriers.

Tire manufacturers are also looking to go beyond these classic valuations and to remake tires with old ones. One of them "has already made tires with our oil, he tested them on a circuit and he was happy with it," Klein said. "But they do not want to engage for the moment," he regrets.

- 'Capital risk' -

For more than 20 years, companies around the world are developing pyrolysis processes to recycle, among other things, tires.

For the time being, "the viability of their industrial model has not yet been demonstrated" and their products "are of lower quality and cannot pass in terms of price" compared to new materials, considers Jean-Philippe. Faure, director of research and development at Aliapur, a benchmark player in the recycling of used tires in France.

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by Remundo » 17/05/15, 22:39

it looks like thermolysis ...

yields are not well known.

So let the focus happen.

Germans like thermolysis to make fuels ... and are pretty good on the subject (Fischer Tropsch among others, coal to liquid)

Choren in his time had tried thermolysis ("gasification") of biomass.
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to make BtL (Biomass to Liquid)
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by Christophe » 18/10/18, 13:07

A tutorial to get into the pyrolysis of plastic at home: http://lowtechlab.org/wiki/Pyrolyseur_de_plastique

Do not expect to do anything but experience: 30 € and 4 hours and above all 125ml of bottled gas used ... for 125mL of "fuel" produced... I'll let you calculate the final cost of this "poly-fuel" and the energy efficiency of the operation ...

But apparently the 30 € include the tanks, so reusable ...

Produce fuel with plastic

Difficulty Medium
Duration4 hour (s)
Cost30 EUR (€)
Other languages: French

In this section:
Step 1 - Pack the first plastic tub
Step 2 - Preheat the second tank
Step 3 - Appearance of the residual gas
Step 4 - Fuel Recovery

Introduction
Plastic pyrolysis is a distillation process that transforms plastic waste into fuel. The waste is heated to more than 400 ° C in a first tank and transform into gas. Depending on the condensing temperatures (cooling) of this gas, different types of fuel are obtained: - between 390 and 170 ° C, the condensed gas produces diesel (diesel). - between 210 and 20 ° C, the condensed gas produces gasoline. - Below 20 ° C, there is residual incondensable gas that can be used to fuel the heating process. As part of this prototype, only polypropylene (PP) and / or high density polyethylene (HDPE) and low density (LDPE) are used. Note that a majority of polypropylene will give more gas, as a majority of polyethylene will give more diesel. However, it is possible to mix both.


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Tools & Materials
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Materials
1 large stainless steel bowl with lid
3 small stainless steel tanks
Copper tube (diameter 6mm)
7 seals copper (for sealing connections)
O-ring (for tank sealing)
PP plastic waste and / or HDPE / LDPE

Tools
Welding
a heating system (minimum 400 ° C)
butane / propane gas spray (375 mL)



Step 1 - Pack the first plastic tub
For this test, the plastic waste is mainly composed of polypropylene.


Step 2 - Preheat the second tank
This preheating is essential. It allows the condensation of gases at high temperature before passing into the last two tanks.

Step 3 - Appearance of the residual gas
Allow the plastic to consume until the incondensable gas is obtained. It comes as a contribution to the gas used initially. For this test, 125mL of bomb gas was used, to which was added the residual gas.

Step 4 - Fuel Recovery
Here, the device heated for about 1h. Turn off the system and allow to cool before opening the vats. Approximately 125mL of fuel is obtained in vessel No. 2 and 30mL in vessel No. 3.

Result of the test to be confirmed in the laboratory.
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by Ono » 18/10/18, 14:57

Indeed, it is not very interesting as a method, at least on a small scale ...
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by Ahmed » 18/10/18, 16:26

I did not reread this thread, but it must have been mentioned, to obtain usable products and not just an improbable "sock juice", it is necessary that the temperature is rather high, which greatly reduces the temperature. interest of such an operation on the energy level.
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by Ono » 18/10/18, 16:28

Yes ... but what about solar heating?

A solar concentrator for example?
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by Christophe » 18/10/18, 16:40

Well that would make the trick even more complex ...

For fun and educational purposes yes (or in case of apocalypse *) otherwise ... blah blah ...

* do not laugh it may be closer than we think ...
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by Ahmed » 19/10/18, 12:32

This is indeed the concern of diffuse energies that are perfect for moderate temperatures, but lose much of their interest when they have to be concentrated for high temperatures. In addition, their fatal nature makes them unsuitable for delicate processes (difficulty of temperature control, passage of a cloud in the case mentioned ...).
To summarize, it will be better by putting oil at one end to get about the same from the other, while giving themselves a lot of trouble! : Lol:
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