Econokit does not bubble on hybrid toyota

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Re: Econokit does not bubble on hybrid toyota




by tibo54200 » 10/01/19, 16:55

Well I did photos of the installation but I did not have time to make a diagram
I called econokit he said that I should not be in the right place.
Yet I disconnected the air circuit after the air filter and we feel the flow of air sucked.
The diffuser is well connected and in the right direction.
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Re: Econokit does not bubble on hybrid toyota




by Janic » 10/01/19, 17:25

Odd, you said weird! Try to pinch the oil vapor recovery pipe because you do not have enough suction, it seems. On the first tests of the Gillier pantone, it was necessary to regulate the suction by valves and even partially block the air supply to accelerate, by trial and error, its flow. Have you consulted the experiments on quanthomme?
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Re: Econokit does not bubble on hybrid toyota




by tibo54200 » 10/01/19, 17:56

No, I did not consult that.
Do you have links?
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by Janic » 10/01/19, 18:45

I assumed it was already done, hence my weird,
http://quanthomme.free.fr/
The site Quant'homme is at the origin of this econological site, Christophe will be able to speak to you about it, and you will find moreover, its presence in the experience of the tractors of the grower Gillier who initiated the separation gasoline + water, by the bubbling of the water alone and the complete preservation of the existing motor system; which Ecopra with its Econokit is one of the manufacturers inspired by it.
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Re: Econokit does not bubble on hybrid toyota




by Flytox » 11/01/19, 23:27

Your pipe (red arrow) is too close (in the bend) of the intake pipe. When the pipe is as bent / angled as you are likely the flow is very disturbed at this point. So the pressure has to frolic and maybe not in the right direction ...
Try another implantation further upstream or downstream of the elbow (distance of at least 1.6 times the inside diameter from the edge of the elbow?)
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Re: Econokit does not bubble on hybrid toyota




by Flytox » 11/01/19, 23:42

To avoid x holes in the hose, you can do with a piece of rigid pipe something like:

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by tibo54200 » 15/01/19, 20:50

Good evening and thank you all for your answers
I was at night last week (hard drive for a recovery especially for someone from the building) I could not answer too much.
In short I left in suspense but I intend to get back
Flytox I can not quite grasp how the air is less sucked at this place (I know you were talking about flow).
I would like to first bubble my system then it will be easier.
Note that since the interview (which was not given but which was not luxury either) consumption fell sharply but still no bubbling ...
Case to follow.
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by Flytox » 15/01/19, 23:16

tibo54200 wrote:Flytox I can not quite grasp how the air is less sucked at this place (I know you were talking about flow).


When a gas circulates at "high speed" in a pipe, the variations in diameter, sudden change of direction (here 90 °), the surface state / roughness, proximity of a connection with another pipe (here the recycling of oil vapors) etc ... cause the flow to become turbulent. Clearly, different pressure zones are created at different places in the duct, even separated by a few mm. If your pipe is not in depression "continuously" compared to your bubbler, it will never bubble.

Is the "spoon" which is placed at the end of your pipe always oriented in the right direction? The recessed part is downstream from the flow otherwise it creates a pressure instead of a depression.
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Re: Econokit does not bubble on hybrid toyota




by tibo54200 » 22/01/19, 12:27

The "spoon" (diffuser) is indeed in the right direction.
Ok I understood so I must find a better place to plug my broadcaster.
I will contact a close who is mechanic to see if he can help me too.
See you soon.
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Re: Econokit does not bubble on hybrid toyota




by tibo54200 » 03/03/19, 21:24

Hello everybody

I just give you my news, the warmth of recent days may have had an effect on the system but consumption has dropped to such a point that I have never had such figures ...

So maybe it has nothing to do with the kit because I did not change the connections at all, but I still wanted to share it with you until I found a mechanic to optimize the connections.

the following journeys are about fifty km each and the consumption concerns the journey only.

Mostly on national and the thermometer tells you the outside temperature the conditions were good.
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