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crude vegetable oil, diester, bio-ethanol or other biofuels, or fuel of vegetable origin ...
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by Christophe » 20/05/08, 11:06

Cuicui wrote:Unfortunately, the process is kept secret ...


Of course, don't mean it's just a very common bacteria ... they couldn't patent it : Evil: : Evil:

In the article on Laigret the process in question is clearly explained: it is about (the?) perfringens
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by tigrou_838 » 20/05/08, 11:24

just a quick question.

two weeks ago i put some grass plus dandelions in a plastic bucket and i forgot it, sheltered from the rain and in full sun, that it was not my surprise when I wanted to empty the bucket, to see a blackish liquid at the bottom.

would not be already the beginnings of the transformation into green oil ??????

if so, I transfer the composter and I put buckets in plastot everywhere.

voila, I know nothing about it so I give the floor to the pro of biochemistry.

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by Christophe » 20/05/08, 11:34

Yes tigger it is (well it is the very beginning) but in your case I think that it is especially a beginning of biomethanization.

With oil, the problem is the "continuation" ... that is to say the control of the process so that it does not end up in biogas precisely, the extraction of oil without breaking the biological process and finally the "refining "in a" burnable "fuel (ie in the device which is going well and without too much pollution of CO or unburnt type).
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by tigrou_838 » 20/05/08, 11:45

ok christophe, i will take a closer look at the laigret patent, the 1952 patent.



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by Christophe » 20/05/08, 11:53

If there is a need for water for the process you know where to find eh biloutte? : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
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by tigrou_838 » 20/05/08, 11:58

ok biloutte eh,

it will be easier to put a hose on your ram, to bring the water to my place !!!!

well I know 115kms it's been a bit far.

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by Christophe » 20/05/08, 12:04

What a beak this tigger : Mrgreen:
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by Cuicui » 20/05/08, 12:58

Remundo wrote:Well if it's fermentation, it's even less revolutionary ... a bacterium or another ...

It is a fermentation with traces of iodine as a catalyst. So much the better if it is not revolutionary, a well-known process is perhaps more within our reach. If everyone could make their own fuel, it would still have an air of revolution. We should just check if this oil can directly feed a diesel engine without going through a refining. According to Laigret, the oil obtained floats on the surface of the preparation.
I think this topic deserves a new title: make your own fuel from biomass.
If by chance some people already do it without our knowledge, it would be good if they passed on information to us ... Given that the process does not seem to interest industrialists (they prefer to use food products), it may be within the reach of individuals! :P
http://www.lagrandeepoque.com/LGE/content/view/879
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by jonule » 20/05/08, 14:00

anaerobic note = no air present! or oxygen ...

if not for the simplest control it is like a recipe: you have to monitor the T ° C for a certain time I think, and possibly a degree of I don't know what ?!
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by Cuicui » 20/05/08, 16:51

jonule wrote:anaerobic note = no air present! or oxygen ...

hi Jonule
It will therefore require fermentation which produces either carbon dioxide which expels air from above, or lighter methane which will expel air from below. Once the air has been evacuated, close tightly with perhaps an outlet to evacuate any excess pressure. Open and recover the oil only at the end of fermentation. Therefore, no continuous feeding which risks bringing air, but several closed containers with fermentation in progress.
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