Difficulties and bankruptcies of biofuel factories

crude vegetable oil, diester, bio-ethanol or other biofuels, or fuel of vegetable origin ...
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by jonule » 26/06/08, 15:20

yes and uh thank you lumberjack for the text explanation!

the debate is immediately clearer! well i think ... so don't forget ethanol = corn corn beet

too much debate kills debate?

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> it is breathtaking to see the ethanol factories increase and those of rapeseed decrease ... it smacks of the lobby!
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by Christophe » 26/06/08, 15:32

Well especially that it is precisely the DIESEL fuel that is lacking in France ... speculation when you hold us ...
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by jonule » 26/06/08, 16:05

well!
when we see that the rapeseed producers have grown their fields well, this year there will be rapeseed for everyone!

at 0.85 ct / L it's worth it, almost 2 times cheaper ;-)

and then if not ... eat fries!
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by Woodcutter » 26/06/08, 23:34

jonule wrote:well!
when we see that the rapeseed producers have grown their fields well, this year there will be rapeseed for everyone!

at 0.85 ct / L it's worth it, almost 2 times cheaper ;-)

and then if not ... eat fries!
Mwoué ... :? my producer told me that the seeds had grown terribly and that you should expect to pay at least 0.90 l, see 1 €.
I finally ...
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by martien007 » 27/06/08, 00:32

ps: Martian did you correct your quotes on the other subject?

You're not going to make me a cheese for missed quotes once in 10000. Besides, not sure that it was I who missed the quotes, but rather the one who used my words to answer them.

You make a quota there ?? 8)
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by jonule » 27/06/08, 09:48

Woodcutter wrote:Mwoué ... :? my producer told me that the seeds had grown terribly and that you should expect to pay at least 0.90 l, see 1 €.
I finally ...


yep! well because of the price of wheat (ethanol so) on which rapeseed is indexed!
it is indeed the uprising weapon of the new agro-economic oil tankers!
it was not easy to do, but it was their only weapon ... it's real sold by the way, dare to speculate on food!

Finally you will tell me, between a BIO fuel at 1 € and oil at 1.5 € should be silly to hesitate, right?
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by Christophe » 27/06/08, 10:23

jonule wrote:Finally you will tell me, between a BIO fuel at 1 € and oil at 1.5 € should be silly to hesitate, right?


It all depends if you take into account the risk of premature wear and tear taken on the engine ... (without doping with water of course :) )

Few of the engines run at 100% ... at 50% the average price is € 1,25 ... so the economic advantage is quickly limited.

I think that driving in oil should be considered above all as an eco-citizen gesture and not an economic advantage ...
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by jonule » 27/06/08, 10:38

and technically Christophe, all diesel vehicles can run on 100% oil, with + or - some modifications, because they have above all been prepared with diesel; the rule being "any hot engine = 100% oil".

we can technically advance on another subject if you want ;-)

of course there are rules to be observed but the automatic electronics can remedy them in all cases now (passage of oil> diesel if exhaust T ° C <300 ° C for example, same as automatic kit etc ...).

I've been riding 100% recycled oil for 6 years now, no worries.

and that is an undeniable economic advantage!

"as long as there are fries" 8)



after me I will put more risks to dope with water than to run in oil!
ditto engine technology.
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by Woodcutter » 27/06/08, 17:45

Christophe wrote:[...] I think that rolling in oil should be considered above all as an eco-citizen gesture and not an economic advantage ...
Me it allows me to have a car that "fossilizes"only 4l / 100 ... While waiting for LOREMO! 8)
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by Christophe » 27/06/08, 17:47

Yes Bucheron, it is eco-citizen therefore :)

But the loremo I believe more since the update of their specifications ... : Cry:
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