So, what should I choose then to consume the least possible?
An automatic kit that is based on the lambda probe to make adjustments? But apparently on some sites they say that in reality it is difficult to determine the dosage of Etanol / SP95 mixture from the lambda probe data?
Or an automatic kit not connected to the lamdbda sensor but who interprets the results of the calculator?
Petrol Conversion Kit to E85
if you want to know more about the E85 here is a site that includes all users!
http://superethanol.free.fr
http://superethanol.free.fr
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visit: http://super-ethanol.fr to ride to E85! with a classic car!
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hello, I come by chance on this forum, I went through this post that came in 2e page in a search on kit ethanol ....
I am in the development of a product of this type, responsible for carrying out tests and tests for more than 2 years in all conditions and on different vehicles ...
frankly, I was amazed at all that one can read on this subject. I am about 45000 km only at E85 with several vehicles, I have a "fountain" tank with a submerged bosch gasoline pump from a scrap car which has circulated pure ethanol 24 hours a day since 24 months! (I just top it up to compensate for the evaporation). this experience will be reproduced in a transparent formwork sealed by a bailiff ....
having significant means by investors who do not want to be wrong (vehicles, measuring devices to an endoscope to photograph the inside of the cylinders by the candle hole ....) I made a report that led a French car network of 140 distributors to launch a guaranteed conversion of 1 to 2 years, for the kit and the engine on petrol cars according to 1996 (equipped with an OBD II plug).
this report has also been used by an insurance company that has put in place a fee for this guarantee ... they are not phylantropics: they only engage in these guarantees because the risks are low and it is widely demonstrated in the USA and Europe ...
serious conversions respond to a precise protocol before assembly and are adjusted to each vehicle by means of a 6 gas analyzer, it is not enough to find connectors that plug into a car to adapt a kit to it, top people want to do believe that to send them by post pocketing as much as possible ... at best it gives unnecessary overconsumption, at worst: a hole in a piston due to a mixture that is much too lean leading to a "combustion point" (no warning sign, just a little less fishing and a few more degrees in the radiator, the too lean explosion is no longer distributed over the entire volume of the cylinder and it ends up overcoming the material, often through A piston...)
those who go from the SP95 to the E85 in an injection car without any modifications expose themselves to the same worries ...
to run an engine at E85, it takes longer to open the injectors and earlier in the engine cycle. Ethanol is more dense than unleaded, and an identical opening time delivers a smaller quantity (by volume) of E85 than SP95, while it takes a little more to the contrary, to obtain a similar explosion ... that's what the kits do: they increase the range of adjustment that your original computer can impose on the injectors to keep a suitable mix and complies with the programmed emission limits and dictated by the lambda sensor.
I just want to warn all those who embark on crafts on carburetor vehicles: one of the few truths about them on the E85 among all the disasters that some attribute to him,
it is not advisable to stagnate it in aluminum.
on the oldest vehicles equipped to run with alcohol (jeep ford CJ5 in argentina and brazil from the 50s-60s) the carburetor was "nickel-plated" on all its internal surfaces, some of these overstock carbs ended up in the dealers of parts for collectors, and many are those who wondered 20 or 30 years ago when buying these carbs in a military surplus, why they were "chromed in" ...
the ford T ran on alcohol before it was found a cheaper "alternative" fuel (at the time) by refining petroleum to allow its use in an internal combustion engine by reducing fouling ...
do not conclude that an aluminum block can not manage E85, this concern concerns only the liquid state, not the combustion.
some varnishes (of the type that covers the inside of cans of coca) have interesting properties against the E85, we can consider covering the carbs tanks to try ... my collection of aluminum cycling gourds filled half of E85 is slowly aging to bring answers soon ...
this post gave me the idea to keep some carbs floats in E85 to see what they become .... I must be able to quickly find some.
I am in the development of a product of this type, responsible for carrying out tests and tests for more than 2 years in all conditions and on different vehicles ...
frankly, I was amazed at all that one can read on this subject. I am about 45000 km only at E85 with several vehicles, I have a "fountain" tank with a submerged bosch gasoline pump from a scrap car which has circulated pure ethanol 24 hours a day since 24 months! (I just top it up to compensate for the evaporation). this experience will be reproduced in a transparent formwork sealed by a bailiff ....
having significant means by investors who do not want to be wrong (vehicles, measuring devices to an endoscope to photograph the inside of the cylinders by the candle hole ....) I made a report that led a French car network of 140 distributors to launch a guaranteed conversion of 1 to 2 years, for the kit and the engine on petrol cars according to 1996 (equipped with an OBD II plug).
this report has also been used by an insurance company that has put in place a fee for this guarantee ... they are not phylantropics: they only engage in these guarantees because the risks are low and it is widely demonstrated in the USA and Europe ...
serious conversions respond to a precise protocol before assembly and are adjusted to each vehicle by means of a 6 gas analyzer, it is not enough to find connectors that plug into a car to adapt a kit to it, top people want to do believe that to send them by post pocketing as much as possible ... at best it gives unnecessary overconsumption, at worst: a hole in a piston due to a mixture that is much too lean leading to a "combustion point" (no warning sign, just a little less fishing and a few more degrees in the radiator, the too lean explosion is no longer distributed over the entire volume of the cylinder and it ends up overcoming the material, often through A piston...)
those who go from the SP95 to the E85 in an injection car without any modifications expose themselves to the same worries ...
to run an engine at E85, it takes longer to open the injectors and earlier in the engine cycle. Ethanol is more dense than unleaded, and an identical opening time delivers a smaller quantity (by volume) of E85 than SP95, while it takes a little more to the contrary, to obtain a similar explosion ... that's what the kits do: they increase the range of adjustment that your original computer can impose on the injectors to keep a suitable mix and complies with the programmed emission limits and dictated by the lambda sensor.
I just want to warn all those who embark on crafts on carburetor vehicles: one of the few truths about them on the E85 among all the disasters that some attribute to him,
it is not advisable to stagnate it in aluminum.
on the oldest vehicles equipped to run with alcohol (jeep ford CJ5 in argentina and brazil from the 50s-60s) the carburetor was "nickel-plated" on all its internal surfaces, some of these overstock carbs ended up in the dealers of parts for collectors, and many are those who wondered 20 or 30 years ago when buying these carbs in a military surplus, why they were "chromed in" ...
the ford T ran on alcohol before it was found a cheaper "alternative" fuel (at the time) by refining petroleum to allow its use in an internal combustion engine by reducing fouling ...
do not conclude that an aluminum block can not manage E85, this concern concerns only the liquid state, not the combustion.
some varnishes (of the type that covers the inside of cans of coca) have interesting properties against the E85, we can consider covering the carbs tanks to try ... my collection of aluminum cycling gourds filled half of E85 is slowly aging to bring answers soon ...
this post gave me the idea to keep some carbs floats in E85 to see what they become .... I must be able to quickly find some.
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Bioethanol E85 Kit
HELLO!
For people interested, I sell 350 automatic bioethanol kit, I have 2 identical with connection to the lambda probe ...
Contact me for more info ...
For people interested, I sell 350 automatic bioethanol kit, I have 2 identical with connection to the lambda probe ...
Contact me for more info ...
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And while we are in the kits, there is a seller in the US who also distributes kits in France via resellers but if you want to buy them at the source, it's much cheaper lotoup
=> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/E85-Conv ... 18Q2el1247
In general there is no customs fees on small parcels, with the parity dollar dollar, it is even better and in addition the price to the air negotiable short I think for 150 euros delivered max and even one must be able to have the kit !! which is sold 2 or 3x more expensive in France!
=> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/E85-Conv ... 18Q2el1247
In general there is no customs fees on small parcels, with the parity dollar dollar, it is even better and in addition the price to the air negotiable short I think for 150 euros delivered max and even one must be able to have the kit !! which is sold 2 or 3x more expensive in France!
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