Renovation and aerodynamic improvement of a BPW closed trailer
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I finished the comparative study, I give you the results of the drag force at 130 km/h, the overpower consumed, the Cx... but you don't deserve them because you were naughty... so I keep this topic locked.
Cubic Trailer:
Cx = 0,978
Drag force at 130 km/h = 1624 N
Power boost required at 130 km/h = 79,2 hp
Front area: 1,96 m²
Semi-optimized trailer (without the Beluga):
Cx = 0,462
Drag force at 130 km/h = 767 N
Power boost required at 130 km/h = 37,5 hp
Front area: 1,96 m²
Actual trailer as I built it:
Cx = 0,438
Drag force at 130 km/h = 720 N
Power boost required at 130 km/h = 35 hp
Front area: 2,2 m²
Fictitious real trailer (first idea but unrealizable for regulatory reasons) with rear fishtail:
Cx = 0,387
Drag force at 130 km/h = 632 N
Power boost required at 130 km/h = 30,9 hp
Front area: 2,2 m²
These results do not take into account the towing vehicle (without comment), the underbody or the wheels, assuming that this is the same for all models.
The reality will therefore be a little worse, but the comparative orders of magnitude are there.
Conclusion: by manufacturing and using trailers designed by aerodynamic nags, we consume more than twice as much at 2 km/h and we often cannot even reach 130 km/h!!
Cubic Trailer:
Cx = 0,978
Drag force at 130 km/h = 1624 N
Power boost required at 130 km/h = 79,2 hp
Front area: 1,96 m²
Semi-optimized trailer (without the Beluga):
Cx = 0,462
Drag force at 130 km/h = 767 N
Power boost required at 130 km/h = 37,5 hp
Front area: 1,96 m²
Actual trailer as I built it:
Cx = 0,438
Drag force at 130 km/h = 720 N
Power boost required at 130 km/h = 35 hp
Front area: 2,2 m²
Fictitious real trailer (first idea but unrealizable for regulatory reasons) with rear fishtail:
Cx = 0,387
Drag force at 130 km/h = 632 N
Power boost required at 130 km/h = 30,9 hp
Front area: 2,2 m²
These results do not take into account the towing vehicle (without comment), the underbody or the wheels, assuming that this is the same for all models.
The reality will therefore be a little worse, but the comparative orders of magnitude are there.
Conclusion: by manufacturing and using trailers designed by aerodynamic nags, we consume more than twice as much at 2 km/h and we often cannot even reach 130 km/h!!
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Here is the almost final shape of the trailer:
I remember where I come from:
I remember where I come from:
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First of all, it's a very nice result on very good technical “intuitions”. Simulations do it
Although the original trailer was still “Shimano”?...
I prefer the transformed where there's no more need to shit in the hands
Although the original trailer was still “Shimano”?...
I prefer the transformed where there's no more need to shit in the hands
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I also simulated the profile of Eiffel (1/2 drop of water) with a max projected frontal surface of 2 m²... (not estimated the interior volume but it's close to the others)
I get at 130 km/h:
27,5 kg of drag
13,4 hp...
and a Cd of 0,162...
On the visualization, no eddies, no depression, no boundary layer separation...
No trailer will do better than that...however, it's very hard to achieve as a shape, apart from a large mould, I don't see...
I get at 130 km/h:
27,5 kg of drag
13,4 hp...
and a Cd of 0,162...
On the visualization, no eddies, no depression, no boundary layer separation...
No trailer will do better than that...however, it's very hard to achieve as a shape, apart from a large mould, I don't see...
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If yes, why? Make it fiberglass? Still needed a mold (and now it exists)
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I would have to check if my Czéro which has almost the profile of Eiffel but reversed with respect to the direction of travel ... consumes less in reverse than in forward ....
But good with my cervical hernia it will be complicated
But good with my cervical hernia it will be complicated
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Macro the answer is most likely yes...remember to remove the wipers all the same
Reverse gear is limited in km/h on EVs, by the way?
ps: don't ask me why these (cons of) engineers from Citroën have reversed the direction of advancement! No doubt for their career advancements...
Reverse gear is limited in km/h on EVs, by the way?
ps: don't ask me why these (cons of) engineers from Citroën have reversed the direction of advancement! No doubt for their career advancements...
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Yes the speed is limited in reverse ... The engineers who designed it ... Are not those of lemon but those of mitsubishi. Japanese product designed to pay a minimum of taxes in Japanese cities minimum surface area for 4 passengers... Originally in Japan, it's a thermal...
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Shame about the bridle!!
It doesn't matter, it's the same!
Japanese or bad what!
It doesn't matter, it's the same!
Japanese or bad what!
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They are capable of worse... 1t7 90cv v max 145kmh
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