"We produce a lot of food for everyone"

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"We produce a lot of food for everyone"




by sen-no-sen » 03/03/14, 17:53

"We widely produce enough to feed everyone", an article by Marc Dufumier (no it's not a joke!):

Marc Dufumier, a committed agronomist and professor emeritus at Agroparistech, has just published 50 misconceptions about agriculture and food (Allary Editions). In this book in the form of "true-false", he questions the excesses of industrial agriculture, by proposing more sustainable solutions. His speech on France Inter Thursday morning sums up his point well:

“Even more serious than the horse in beef lasagna is the anti-inflammatory drugs in horse meat. There is a real problem today with regard to our food, which comes from our agriculture, which has, in the last 20 years, in short, motorized, mechanized, chemized, specialized, standardized, and which provides the most standard, low-variety products in large and medium-sized stores, which have been selected for their ability to be transported, to withstand shocks, and to be able to stay on the shelves for a long time. ”

In his book, the agronomist tackles the CAP, pesticides, GMOs, bees, animal husbandry or the taste of tomatoes, before broadening the perspective by tackling the question of the poor distribution of food in the world :

“The earth does not produce enough to feed its 7,2 billion inhabitants. False. We widely produce enough to feed everyone. ”

The demonstration follows: for all humans to be properly fed, 200 kg of grain must be produced per inhabitant per year, or their equivalent in potatoes, cassava etc., "even if only a small part only of this production is intended for animal feed ”. But precisely, we produce on the planet the equivalent of 320 to 330 kilos of grain per year per person.

The problem, according to Marc Dufumier, is that all this food does not go to hungry people, but to "wasters" (remember the number that kills: a third of the food produced for men in the world that ends in the trash), "gluttonous" (who consume too much milk and meat, produced from animals that must be fed: "In Brazil, one hectare of land can feed 50 vegetarians, but 2 carnivores ”) and finally to“ agrofuels ”, which are for the author a“ false good idea ”.

Another problem pointed out, “in some southern countries, entire regions of cultivable land are monopolized by private companies. And to the detriment of peasants who could produce by themselves what they need ”.

According to the author, in an attempt to solve these problems, the rich countries should neither sell off nor give away their food surpluses, because this is very bad for poorly equipped farmers. Why not "introduce customs duties at the borders of the countries of the South, in order to raise the prices of imported food products on the internal markets", so that local products are thus favored?

The agronomist also thinks that today we could feed the planet (and even the 9,5 billion humans of 2050) with a 100% organic diet, by generalizing techniques inspired by agroecology and by combining agriculture and breeding... Techniques which currently face certain obstacles, such as pressures from seed companies and difficulties in accessing loans.

Finally, insects are also considered, following the recommendations of the FAO, as an opportunity for certain populations. A very profitable product, since "per tonne of food produced, locust farming requires twelve times less area than a herd of cattle". In addition, locust farming emits significantly less greenhouse gases, and requires far less equipment.


http://www.slate.fr/life/83985/agriculture-production-nourrir-monde
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by Janic » 03/03/14, 18:45

Good reaction by stressing all the same that the problem of the world population is not limited to food, but also to the way of life and therefore the excessive industrialization, the energetic gabgie, etc ... plus the aging of the populations in conditions of survival (because many of these old men are only corpses in suspension and hardly different.) frightening.
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by elephant » 03/03/14, 19:13

Bad argument to maintain that the earth is not overcrowded. Each additional human increases pollution and pumps on raw materials.

There are 7 billion extra humans on this planet and this problem must be tackled urgently.
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by Ahmed » 03/03/14, 21:47

Poor distribution and food waste are not the result of inadequate organization or "bad" speculators, but shows that agricultural production is only indirectly designed to feed the population: its real purpose is only to produce food. the value.
This is why unsolvable humans are left behind and the self-consuming peasants (who produce no value, only utility) are robbed to make room for export crops.
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by Janic » 04/03/14, 08:25

absolutely, thierry! : Cheesy: to qualify let's say that: "than agricultural production "intense "is only indirectly designed to feed the population: its real purpose is only to produce value"
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by Ahmed » 04/03/14, 09:32

"Absolutely, thierry!", Janic, don't you take me for someone else? :P
"to qualify": would it not be rather: "to clarify" (but the body of my message leaves no room for ambiguity); thanks anyway!.
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by Christophe » 04/03/14, 09:38

Jean Ziegler http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Ziegler even think that the current capacity of agriculture would already feed 12 billion mouths!

One of his interviews: https://www.econologie.com/forums/destructio ... 12239.html
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by Janic » 04/03/14, 10:23

Jean Ziegler http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Ziegler even think that the current capacity of agriculture would already feed 12 billion mouths!
It is quite possible if each of them lives naked, digs the earth with a stick, lives in a straw hut and feeds exclusively on its production ... and again!
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by Christophe » 04/03/14, 10:59

Not Janic at all!

Ziegler talks about the capacity of current agricultural production in relation to the nutritional needs of humanity ...

Only about 50% of food is wasted in the current system at the different level of production, distribution, consumption ...

So the count is good!

Take into account also the fact that we eat far too much meat or processed foods and too high in calories in rich countries ... Which refers to this subject: https://www.econologie.com/forums/alimentati ... 10399.html
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by Pascalou » 04/03/14, 11:26

I studied agriculture for 3 years, and here is my point of view:
We have too much to eat for everyone. Some researchers on the subject claim 2 times too much, others three times. But what is certain is that we have too much.
Of course, the obvious cause is Capitalism's grip on agriculture, but the real root is man and his egoism: let's take organic farming which would really be a solution. It's not capitalist enough and too anti-globalist, imagine that the pesticide stores, the GMO research centers, the huge global flows of agricultural goods between continents come to a stop. For example our cheap meat is dependent (to feed our animals) on the over-intensive agriculture of South America! Who among you is willing to pay 3 or 4 times the current price of meat to cook yourself well? Because if we want to stop our monstrous globalist agriculture, we will have to pay the price.
In Europe, for example, we often die of overeating, we throw around 30% of our food (expired products, old dishes in the fridge ...), some even claim that this loss is 50% by counting the stock thrown away. large stores, restaurants ... Half !!
Moreover, not enough to produce polluting and cheap, we send our production to Africa (especially cereals) "against famine", finally, the truth is that our cheap wheat kills the local and peasant agriculture of these countries which do not. cannot compete with our highly mechanized agriculture. And they become dependent on our Wheat! Another good capitalist vein to make "wheat" with our wheat! And the famine continues ...
In addition, our farmers in our so-called developed countries are dependent on European subsidies (around 50% of their income!). This frustrates them and devalues ​​their work. They are also required to provide a yield and a little bit to protect the environment (monster hypocrisy of the authorities!). In addition, the big farm becomes bigger, the smaller ones, because not competitive with the world market. So our farmers become "agricultural machines" who serve a very perverse system, get frustrated, and no one wants to do this normally wonderful job anymore.
Another small example: 80% cocoa is produced by children! And we like to eat chocolate. Small example among so many others.
So I say bravos Bretons, bravos Bové! Keep going !
Slavery is far from over, on the contrary it is still growing. Even those who make slavery will soon become themselves slaves of their material abundance, if they are not already :). What a beautiful humanity!
So the problem is man and his selfishness. Man without God is bad, he always has been and always will be. The Bible is right. Only Jesus is a hope of life.
The proof is that solutions to problems have already existed for a long time (example of agriculture) and I am well placed to have studied it, as well as the alternatives to our system, yet they are not implemented.
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