The Autonomous You Tubers

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Ah, what's the connection with Brian and me?

[alkaline]

Hey, it's topical, it seems that there is water in the gas of autonomy ...

Yes yes it looks like it's fashionable on you tube there is also Loic the gardener who has just released "Autonomy review 1 year later: zero" https://youtu.be/j-CpcVh5zyA that's always a subject of video;)

[Adrien (ex-nico239)]

Hey, it's topical, it seems that there is water in the gas of autonomy ...

Yes yes it looks like it's fashionable on you tube there is also Loic the gardener who has just released "Autonomy review 1 year later: zero" https://youtu.be/j-CpcVh5zyA that's always a subject of video;)

He deserves to be sincere
I am not a specialist but not sure that on an ecological level, moreover, all solar is very green or even profitable
I'm sure others have deciphered this here in the menu

[Moindreffor]

Hey, it's topical, it seems that there is water in the gas of autonomy ...

Yes yes it looks like it's fashionable on you tube there is also Loic the gardener who has just released "Autonomy review 1 year later: zero" https://youtu.be/j-CpcVh5zyA that's always a subject of video;)

He deserves to be sincere
I am not a specialist but not sure that on an ecological level, moreover, all solar is very green or even profitable
I'm sure others have deciphered this here in the menu

for me it's simply a question of vocabulary
I came to this thread after researching permaculture, but what is permaculture? and therefore what is autonomy? two words and how many definitions and yet this duo is a bit the winning duo

when you want visibility on Youtube, you undergo the logic of the search engine, and therefore the vocabulary is essential
Didier, who is not in the same approach, has fun with this with titles in the wrong direction
So yes the youtubers can disappoint a lot because each listener going from his definition does not get his money's worth and therefore what could be more disappointing to believe in a project and to see it dismantled every day by people who are on another

you have to be like Didier and expect nothing from it, and that way you are never disappointed if you don't harvest anything, which is rarely the case for the average youtuber, people who are looking for recipes, tips, hand, the illusion of the dream will necessarily be disappointed by Didier

[Did67]

I wrote a quick article on the issue of autonomy before the summer.

In very summary:

a) seeking autonomy (in the individual sense) is a contradiction: historically, man has always sought collaboration, mutual aid, exchanges ... There is a pyramid of needs - including social needs, etc ... Food is only one element among many. What to be autonomous for food and not for the rest: it's ridiculous!

b) for vegetable gardens, know that the energy of our food comes from cereals - not vegetables (the pot is a vegetable with starch storage comparable to a cereal); if we only ate that, without any regard for tastes, pleasures, vitamins, antioxidants, it would take at least ten ares to meet the energy needs of a couple ... with the most plants effective that are pdt, corn or rice ... Very quickly, if we include legumes to have proteins, that climbs: around forty ares!

c) but anyway, to be "individually autonomous", that would mean giving up what others do for us: no institutes to raise our children, no doctors to treat us, etc ... Because so that a system works, everyone has to live. It is therefore not enough to be autonomous. We must produce surpluses so that those who do not produce and devote themselves to other essential tasks can live! They too would be "autonomous" and would take care of their food ... AND suddenly, before Macron, I came to look at what area an Amish family cultivated to be relatively autonomous, while mutualizing the pastor, the instit, doctor, etc ... The average Amish farm is ... 32 ha!

[Did67]

you have to be like Didier and expect nothing from it, and that way you are never disappointed if you don't harvest anything, which is rarely the case for the average youtuber, people who are looking for recipes, tips, hand, the illusion of the dream will necessarily be disappointed by Didier

I evoke this problem a little in an "interview" which was posted by a fan on "LIbertoo" (but which a priori is still not public).

[Moindreffor]

you have to be like Didier and expect nothing from it, and that way you are never disappointed if you don't harvest anything, which is rarely the case for the average youtuber, people who are looking for recipes, tips, hand, the illusion of the dream will necessarily be disappointed by Didier

I evoke this problem a little in an "interview" which was posted by a fan on "LIbertoo" (but which a priori is still not public).

the fan problem, they are exclusive and not sharers he must keep it just for himself

[Moindreffor]

I wrote a quick article on the issue of autonomy before the summer.

In very summary:

a) seeking autonomy (in the individual sense) is a contradiction: historically, man has always sought collaboration, mutual aid, exchanges ... There is a pyramid of needs - including social needs, etc ... Food is only one element among many. What to be autonomous for food and not for the rest: it's ridiculous!

b) for vegetable gardens, know that the energy of our food comes from cereals - not vegetables (the pot is a vegetable with starch storage comparable to a cereal); if we only ate that, without any regard for tastes, pleasures, vitamins, antioxidants, it would take at least ten ares to meet the energy needs of a couple ... with the most plants effective that are pdt, corn or rice ... Very quickly, if we include legumes to have proteins, that climbs: around forty ares!

c) but anyway, to be "individually autonomous", that would mean giving up what others do for us: no institutes to raise our children, no doctors to treat us, etc ... Because so that a system works, everyone has to live. It is therefore not enough to be autonomous. We must produce surpluses so that those who do not produce and devote themselves to other essential tasks can live! They too would be "autonomous" and would take care of their food ... AND suddenly, before Macron, I came to look at what area an Amish family cultivated to be relatively autonomous, while mutualizing the pastor, the instit, doctor, etc ... The average Amish farm is ... 32 ha!

to be more intellectually honest, we should talk more about deconsumption rather than autonomy, how to best pool and how to reduce the impact of our consumption
I dream of a PC connected to a pedal itself connected to a generator to power the PC and play sports at the same time

[Did67]

the fan problem, they are exclusive and not sharers he must keep it just for himself

No, I put the link to the "Libertoo open group" on another thread - but there is still a problem, a priori, that I am seeing with him: this is not accessible to those who are not registered ...

It will come.

I will give an info on the "basic" PP thread.

[Did67]

I dream of a PC connected to a pedal itself connected to a generator to power the PC and play sports at the same time

Instead, you know that in gyms, the "bikes" you pedal consume electricity !!!