Organic growth in France

[Moindreffor]

A growing market
The well-being and ecology are invited more and more in the shopping carts of the French for the greater good of our planet. In 2018, organic represented 5% of food purchases, and generated nearly 10 billion euros in turnover, with half of its distribution now being handled by supermarkets. Behind the growth of a market that promises "a healthier and more environmentally friendly life", the magazine 60 million consumers has screened 130 products such as milk, cereals, spread, wine , meat or fish.
Inevitable exposure to pollutants and pesticides
Among the results of the analyzes, products such as milk and eggs contained, despite their label, dioxins, molecules from industrial waste (in particular from incinerators), as well as PCBs, chemicals present in the soil due to the pollution, which are absorbed by farm animals.
Organic does not mean "sustainable"
If the approach of such a label seems beneficial at first glance, the magazine exposes several contradictions that we find today behind the organic market. Ecologically, many organic products are now distributed in plastic packaging, others are made from palm oil, thus contributing to deforestation, not to mention the carbon footprint of certain organic products, grown. off season and imported from distant countries to be available in store.
From an ethical standpoint, the study's authors also point out that the organic industry is not exempt from exploiting immigrant workers to reduce costs. As the deputy editor of the magazine Christelle Pangrazzi underlines at the Ouest-France newspaper: "By opting for organic, the consumer should have the guarantee of buying responsible from a nutritional, ecological or ethical point of view".
Organic does not mean "dietetic"
Under their green labels and their appearance of healthy products, organic products do not deprive consumers of their vigilance when it comes to their consumption of sugars. Main enemy of diets, sugars are very present in organic juices and cakes. Organic or not organic, too much consumption can expose you to the risk of developing type 2 diabetes or even heptic steatosis or "fatty liver disease".
Solutions exist
Because reviews are a source of progress, the magazine's study reminds us of our great share of responsibility in our awareness and our consumption choices. If the organic market today has flaws, the ecological approach remains beneficial and several solutions exist to correct the situation: purchase in bulk to avoid packaging, consume local and seasonal, adopt a healthier lifestyle, choose a place of life and origins less exposed to pollutants, peel thin-skinned fruits and vegetables (even organic), reduce your meat consumption, select "complete" sugars, and develop cooking skills to consume less processed products.

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PCBs and dioxins are toxic in extremely low doses, far more than traces of conventional pesticides. https://www.60millions-mag.com/2019/06/ ... tion-14218

Certain organic milks and eggs have in fact been found to be more loaded with dioxins and PCBs than so-called conventional milks or eggs. Dioxins are molecules from industrial waste, especially from incinerators.

As for PCBs, their manufacture has been prohibited in France since 1987, but these chemicals have the property of accumulating in soils and persisting there for years. They are carcinogenic and endocrine disruptors for humans.

Contaminated meadows
Organic milk and eggs contain more PCBs and dioxins than others, because animals are more often outdoors than in conventional farming. A good thing in terms of animal welfare, certainly. But this observation points to flaws in the "organic farming" label.

In fact, the soils are not checked for these pollutants before the installation of a farm or an organic crop. And the farmer can convert his field to organic, even if the latter is located near a polluting installation.

[moinsdewatt]

French organic farming had a "record year" in 2018

AFP • 04 / 06 / 2019

Organic agricultural production recorded a "record year" in France in 2018, especially in cereals, with an increase to 7,5% of the organic agricultural area, while 10% of farmers now work organic in the country, a the Agence Bio announced on Tuesday.

With two million hectares cultivated organically last year in France, there is really "a milestone passed" on the production side, "in line with the objective of achieving 15% of the agricultural area in organic by the end of 2022", said Florent Guhl, director of Agence Bio, a public body which monitors the evolution of organic farming in France.

In total, "14% of agricultural employment is organic" added Mr. Guhl, underlining "a very significant employment effect of organic farms".



The new products of 2018 relate mainly to cereals, oilseeds and pulses which are catching up, with a jump of 31% of these organic agricultural areas, to 513.000 hectares, indicates the Agence Bio in its annual report.

"In 2013, only 1% of field crops in France were organic, today we are at 4,3%" greeted Mr. Guhl. An increase made possible in particular by the significant increase in dedicated processing and storage capacities, the opening of silos and mills dedicated to organic wheat, such as that of the Valfrance cooperative near Melun or Soufflet in the Rhône department.

To achieve the official objective of 15% of the total agricultural useful area in organic at the end of 2022, the agency estimates that in terms of cereals, France will have to cultivate 8% of its "field crops" in organic.

In the field of pulses, 40% are already organic.

In viticulture too, the leap is very significant (+ 20%), with 12% of the French organic vineyard (94.020 hectares) in 2018. To encourage winegrowers to take the plunge, a CAB (organic farming conversion) label was created to cover the three-year conversion period.

The logo allows the winegrower to explain to the consumer that he is engaged in the organic process, and thus to sell his wine a little more expensive than non-organic wine during the transition. "14.000 new hectares of vines will be converted to organic next year," said Mr. Guhl.

He also underlined the "great success" of organic fruits and vegetables, encouraged by the objective set out in the Food Law (Egalim) of achieving 20% ​​organic products or in conversion to collective catering by 2022.

https://www.boursorama.com/actualite-ec ... 7e2010b6bd

[Janic]

Again and again this confusion between different subjects.
AB is just a guarantee that the farmer HIM and HIM ONLY does not use synthetic products. It is not he who uses plastics for packaging, nor he who incinerates toxic products, nor he who authorizes or prohibits foreign labor in this field as in other industrial fields. But if there are toxic products linked to incinerators, for example, the same is true for all neighboring non-organic fields too, except that in addition they are still much more polluting with all the chemicals they use.
It is up to the government to deal with these other aspects, not the farmer himself.

[Moindreffor]

Again and again this confusion between different subjects.
AB is just a guarantee that the farmer HIM and HIM ONLY does not use synthetic products. It is not he who uses plastics for packaging, nor he who incinerates toxic products, nor he who authorizes or prohibits foreign labor in this field as in other industrial fields. But if there are toxic products linked to incinerators, for example, the same is true for all neighboring non-organic fields too, except that in addition they are still much more polluting with all the chemicals they use.
It is up to the government to deal with these other aspects, not the farmer himself.

nobody questions the farmer, when you will have understood that you will have taken a big step, what we question is the label "organic" which loses its meaning every day, and therefore to claim to be "organic "or promoting the current" organic "is in my opinion making a mistake

it would be better to redefine another label, more in line with what you are defending, there it is a little saved the "organic" soldier, a certain waste

[Janic]

nobody questions the farmer, when you will have understood that you will have taken a big step, what we question is the label "organic" which loses its meaning every day, and therefore to claim to be "organic "or promoting the current" organic "is in my opinion making a mistake

You can't be so clogged! Certainly the term organic is used in all sauces, up to biofuel as if a fuel could be organic. You arrive with the floured beak playing the flies of the tick [*] in an area of ​​which you are ignorant and you find yourself judge by your superficial ignorance of the subject.
So do a little history before saying such nonsense, disseminated at will by big agrochemicals for decades and therefore you serve your master well.
I remind you that the organic label was instituted to legalize an agricultural model that ESCAPES THE RULES OF CONVENTIONAL AGRICULTURE, or rather of synthetic “chemical” agriculture, and which saw this mode of agriculture questioned and their hand bet on this sector
You have not known the controversies and fake news initiated by agrochemistry, via the media, to discredit this organic farming which attracted more and more farmers becoming aware of the absurdity of this agrochemistry and its dangers, and this above all label.
So if the official bio has lost its rigor, its requirements, it allows (despite its shortcomings and shortcomings) new conversions to this farming method more respectful of the environment and the health of consumers, not just farmers.

it would be better to redefine another label, more in line with what you are defending, there it is a little saved the "organic" soldier, a certain waste

It is a profound error of reasoning! It is not the term which is to be changed (to be replaced by more than organic?) And thus give reason to agrochemistry which, finally, could boast of having finally eliminated a competing concept highlighting the dangers of this chemical agriculture.
As for the label itself, better than nothing, as the agrochemical industry would like because this organic word , it’s like a nail in their shoe they failed, despite all their efforts and financial means, to be eliminated.when you understand that you will have taken a big step
[*] as on other subjects for that matter!

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For details, buy the special issue https://www.60millions-mag.com/kiosque/ ... eur-du-bio

PCBs and dioxins are toxic in extremely low doses, far more than traces of conventional pesticides. https://www.60millions-mag.com/2019/06/ ... tion-14218

Certain organic milks and eggs have in fact been found to be more loaded with dioxins and PCBs than so-called conventional milks or eggs. Dioxins are molecules from industrial waste, especially from incinerators.

As for PCBs, their manufacture has been prohibited in France since 1987, but these chemicals have the property of accumulating in soils and persisting there for years. They are carcinogenic and endocrine disruptors for humans.

Contaminated meadows
Organic milk and eggs contain more PCBs and dioxins than others, because animals are more often outdoors than in conventional farming. A good thing in terms of animal welfare, certainly. But this observation points to flaws in the "organic farming" label.

In fact, the soils are not checked for these pollutants before the installation of a farm or an organic crop. And the farmer can convert his field to organic, even if the latter is located near a polluting installation.

A black observation of the negative spiral path that we are following: towards a world where the products of above-ground clinical chemical chemistry are less harmful or even less polluted than those of ecological agriculture which suffer the effects of industrial pollution and chemical. It follows impossible or absurd choices: today it is perhaps better to water with tap water (expensive treatment and transport) than with water from the estuary which adjoins your garden!

A remark all the same on the sentence taken from the article: organic labeling goes through an investigation (which is worth what it is worth) in the field (history ...), the control of PCBs is very expensive apparently therefore not feasible. On the other hand, it is true that the proximity of polluting industrial installations should be included in the criteria.

[Janic]

A remark all the same on the sentence taken from the article: organic labeling goes through an investigation (which is worth what it is worth) in the field (history ...), the control of PCBs is very expensive apparently therefore not feasible. On the other hand, it is true that the proximity of polluting industrial installations should be included in the criteria.

There is no longer any place on this earth that is not polluted by one product or another. So where we do not eat anything according to the more or less polluted regions, or we go towards what is the least possible, which is the role (among others) of AB and what is brings them closer.

https://reporterre.net/Il-y-a-bio-et-bi ... -comment-s

[Moindreffor]

So if the official bio has lost its rigor, its requirements, it allows (despite its shortcomings and shortcomings) new conversions to this farming method more respectful of the environment and the health of consumers, not just farmers.

it is typically the beautiful illusion, the false good idea, but for lack of better we can actually cling to that, but instead of clinging to "organic" like a mussel to its mussel, wouldn't it be more desirable to open a new reflection more adapted to our time,

to listen to you, it's old baba-cool on the militant return for "organic" in the canteen of their Ehpad

[Moindreffor]

A remark all the same on the sentence taken from the article: organic labeling goes through an investigation (which is worth what it is worth) in the field (history ...), the control of PCBs is very expensive apparently therefore not feasible. On the other hand, it is true that the proximity of polluting industrial installations should be included in the criteria.

There is no longer any place on this earth that is not polluted by one product or another. So where we do not eat anything according to the more or less polluted regions, or we go towards what is the least possible, which is the role (among others) of AB and what is brings them closer.

https://reporterre.net/Il-y-a-bio-et-bi ... -comment-s

just that attracting consumers to a better quality promise when you know that it cannot be kept, it is called a scam and therefore disregarding those around you for certification, that shows that the important thing is not to guarantee quality, but that we want above all to make figures