The problems of GMOs, a debate to listen

Agriculture and soil. Pollution control, soil remediation, humus and new agricultural techniques.
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View antoinet111 » 18/12/06, 10:16

Toine wrote:Sure !

And luckily the reapers are non-violent

because some pushed to the end by foutage of mouth like
this one could be.
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sorry but they are not really non-violent, i don't like 20 p.m. but still they show the actions of c people.

the mac do, no big deal, but destroy the harvest of a farmer like they did the last time c not normal, they would be non violent the guy would not have pulled out the gun, and sink into the pile suddenly 4x4.
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View Cuicui » 18/12/06, 10:36

antoinet111 wrote: destroy a farmer's crop as they did last time c not normal

Planting GMOs outdoors is criminal and not normal at all. Do you think we should have let it go? Thank you to the reapers who took risks to destroy these plants before flowering to avoid spreading. As for the farmer, he could have thought about it before. He knew what he was doing and what he was risking. He is badly placed to complain.
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View antoinet111 » 18/12/06, 10:45

Cuicui wrote:
antoinet111 wrote: destroy a farmer's crop as they did last time c not normal

Planting GMOs outdoors is criminal and not normal at all. Do you think we should have let it go? Thank you to the reapers who took risks to destroy these plants before flowering to avoid spreading. As for the farmer, he could have thought about it before. He knew what he was doing and what he was risking. He is badly placed to complain.


do you realize the terms you use ??? criminal!!! where are we?

when i hear this i have ALMOST want to tell you to leave them where they are IN TAULLE.
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View Cuicui » 18/12/06, 11:04

antoinet111 wrote:do you realize the terms you use ??? criminal!!! where are we?

And again, I weigh my words. GMOs can create irreversible genetic pollution.
You can't do anything just for money.
We must react. The mowers did it. They had everything to lose and nothing to gain. Thanks to them.
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View gegyx » 18/12/06, 11:29

Anthony111
I understand that you can be offended that this martyred exploiter is accused of criminal!
Because you, as a coach, you are the client, therefore a responsibility above the consequences of this act.
You bring nothing to the debate, which has already taken place at length elsewhere on the forum where you didn’t have to look well. You are delighted that the voluntary reapers can die in prison, it is to say your level of reflection compared to them (of which it is not the patented work).
You're talking about Vit A for the little Chinese. This is an interesting route for GMOs, but after tests in a vacuum and proof of safety on flora and human fauna.
You are unreasonable when you say that it is better to put a natural insecticide in the plant, rather than flooding the fields with pesticides.
I understand that you are defending your business, but I have the right to refuse to take your shit, and do everything to prevent it.
As a selector (employee of which lobby?), You have a noble job, if you do it in soul and conscience.
Know that there are techniques other than those that you recommend, and used, by the peasant confederation that you agonize, as if by chance! The selection of rustic varieties that adapt to the terroir, without the need for watering and chemicals that pollute the soil, (as you recognize).
I do not understand, that you, being of the trade you do not have this openness of mind to improve the future.
You behave like a "beauf", and we understand it very well, since you defend your corporation!
But your corporation is carrying dark days for the improvement of our daily life.
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View Toine » 18/12/06, 11:52

Hello !

Compared to the little Chinese (who could very well be French),

Most of our illnesses generally arise from the environment in
which one is evolving, right?
So what is the biotope of the little Chinese?

Is it healthy? Free of any chemical reported in + by
human activities ?

I wonder....
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View Cuicui » 18/12/06, 13:36

The problem with GMOs is that their promoters, as good salespeople, tout the advantages and do not cite the disadvantages that can prove to be long-term, when it is too late to stop the dissemination of these genes in the region. nature.
And when an industrial seed company sues for "illegal use of a patented product" an organic farmer who complained that his harvest was polluted by GMOs, it is not only our health that is at stake, but also our freedom. .
Of course, all research, including on GMOs, must be encouraged in a confined environment, without the risk of genetic pollution of nature.
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View Woodcutter » 18/12/06, 19:43

Reading these exchanges, I don't really have the impression that antoinet111 brings a specially objective point of view on the subject ...

Certain justifications for GMOs feel the warmth of the arguments of the big seed companies ... : roll:
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View Woodcutter » 18/12/06, 19:45

Article News-Environment on the condemnation of France.
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View Targol » 19/12/06, 09:24

antoinet111 wrote:ex: corn, who can tell me what it multiplies in the wild, quedalle, then, it is not the most serious, whereas if you test GMOs with rapeseed then c something else, it keeps itself, and spreads to other plants (rapeseed, mustard, capsella, .......) the list is large, as a reminder rapeseed is a NATURAL cross, between cabbage and shuttle (c confused with turnip).


Well, GMO corn, it already interferes with organic corn in the surrounding plots, which is enough to reject production. So tell me, what is most unfair, that farmers who want to produce quality food lose all their income because the unconscious wanted to earn a little more to pay for a new 4x4 or that citizens aware of their duties to future generations sacrifice their freedom to finally give birth to the debate that politicians refuse us? Especially since I believe that the mowers pay the farmers for the mowed fields.

antoinet111 wrote:and then the BT, c natural, we invented nothing, it still avoids putting lots of pesticides, it is expensive and c not good for health.


It could be an argument, but the problem is that a certain number of genetic manipulations are intended to reinforce resistance to pesticides in order to increase the doses without bursting the crops. Result: in a certain number of cases, GM crops are more polluting than traditional crops.
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